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Word for the slot at the very top of a glacier between it and the rock?

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Ryan Mac · · Durango, CO · Joined Apr 2019 · Points: 1

Is there a particular word for this?

mountainhick · · Black Hawk, Franktown, CO · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 120

bergschrund

Ryan Mac · · Durango, CO · Joined Apr 2019 · Points: 1
mountainhickwrote:

bergschrund

I mean above the schrund, between the top of the glacier and the rock.

EDIT: Found a helpful diagram on wikipedia, looks like the word I'm looking for is "randkluft."

Jon Nelson · · Redmond, WA · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 8,763

I've heard "moat" used before. 

Though it need not be at the top of a glacier, or even on a glacier--a moat often forms between a snowfield and a wall. 

Sam Beeduhl · · Bend, OR · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 443

Like Jon said... I think moat is the word you're looking for.

Chris C · · Seattle, WA · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 407

I believe the term is “Randkluft”, but “moat” seems to be the most common term to describe the feature in question.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randkluft

Cherokee Nunes · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2015 · Points: 0

The Zone of Plucking... is where it's at!

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276
Chris Cwrote:

"Zone of abrasion"? Maybe they meant "ablation."

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
FrankPSwrote:

"Zone of abrasion"? Maybe they meant "ablation."

Nope. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abr…(geology)

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276

Ha ha! I still think they mean ablation, when referring to a glacier.

4433407 k · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2021 · Points: 5

What's the word for a pissing contest between two trolls where you don't want either one to win?

https://wikidiff.com/ablation/abrasion 

https://paos.colorado.edu/~fasullo/1060/resources/glacial.glossary.html 

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
4433407 kwrote:

What's the word for a pissing contest between two trolls where you don't want either one to win?

https://wikidiff.com/ablation/abrasion 

https://paos.colorado.edu/~fasullo/1060/resources/glacial.glossary.html 

Yeah, my link above is botched. 

And it's hardly a pissing contest. Frank once again is simply incorrect!  

George Bracksieck · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 3,920

Randkluft

Teton Tom · · Raleigh, NC · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 113

I think in most places they call that a “moat”. Not only above a glacier, but even annual snow that melts out in the summer can have a deep moat you might have to deal with to get onto the rock above.

John Clark · · BLC · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 1,408

The french call it Legnar

Martin le Roux · · Superior, CO · Joined Jul 2003 · Points: 416
John Clarkwrote:

The french call it Legnar

Citations? Wouldn't the French be "rimaye"? Although I think that means both randkluft and bergschrund. 

[Edit] Perhaps you're thinking of the French "l'écart", which just means "the gap".

mountainhick · · Black Hawk, Franktown, CO · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 120
Ryan Macwrote:

I mean above the schrund, between the top of the glacier and the rock.

EDIT: Found a helpful diagram on wikipedia, looks like the word I'm looking for is "randkluft."

Moat.

Peter Beal · · Boulder Colorado · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,826

bergschrund usually refers to the gap that forms where a steeper static ice field ends and a glacier (usually lower angle and moving downhill) begins. I don't think I have ever heard the term "randkluft" used by a climber in almost 50 years of climbing reading etc. More typically the term "moat" is used to describing the gap between ice or snowfields and rock.

https://www.summitpost.org/glaciers/700719

John Clark · · BLC · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 1,408
Martin le Rouxwrote:

Citations? Wouldn't the French be "rimaye"? Although I think that means both randkluft and bergschrund. 

[Edit] Perhaps you're thinking of the French "l'écart", which just means "the gap".

No, you misunderstand, above the shrund lies le gnar. “Le gnar gnar” for those from the region of Col de Radeaux

The Traddest Dad · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 0

I will be sure to use the word "randkluft" in front of my partners this summer, and when they ask, look at them like they're complete fucking morons, and even start double-checking their belay technique

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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