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Bolt Bags?

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bmdhacks · · Bellingham, WA · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 1,806

Any recs on ditty bags / bolt bags / racking+carrying techniques for all the odds and ends?

How do you carry your box wrenches / spinner tools / drill bits / quick links / bolts / hangers / anchor chain / brush / blow tube / patch putty / small brushes  / spare batteries / etc?

Duct tape and paracord and rack all of it on your harness?  Massive multi-compartment tool bucket?  Anyone got a system that they really like?

John Clark · · BLC · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 1,408

My friend Lisa Ellerin has made some custom bolting bags for myself and friends before. Could hit her up for the design I bet

Princess Puppy Lovr · · Rent-n, WA · Joined Jun 2018 · Points: 1,756
bmdhackswrote:

Any recs on ditty bags / bolt bags / racking+carrying techniques for all the odds and ends?

How do you carry your box wrenches / spinner tools / drill bits / quick links / bolts / hangers / anchor chain / brush / blow tube / patch putty / small brushes  / spare batteries / etc?

Duct tape and paracord and rack all of it on your harness?  Massive multi-compartment tool bucket?  Anyone got a system that they really like?

For me it is all about work flow process. If I am on a steep wall, which is mostly what I bolt the process is bolt->scrub moss/trundle->final clean/anchor/chain saw/belay area. So when I go up and bolt I only bolt and maybe partly trundle. I use a general work bag, which has multiple pockets like you would get at lowes. I put low use items in the pockets (like extra drill bits).I carry a socket, crescent wrench, hammer, bolts, concrete screws, drill in the bag. When I clean I will have brushes on cord, crowbar, sledge hammer. If I plan to do both in a day I will attach all of it to another rope that I pull up. The final clean I will bring leaf blower, clean brushes, hammer, anchor hardware, shovel, chain saw. I have cord on almost everything (caulk gun included). Also stash as much stuff in buckets as you feel like you can (some days I will just haul up huge back packs and organize everything either at the top or bottom of the wall). 

If I am rebolting I only bring the rebolting tools then repeat the process from above or I start with cleaning if that is possible. Sometimes I will just spend the entire day bolting multiple routes rather than bolting one route and cleaning so I don't have to bring up everything each day. I generally think of developing a whole crag rather than each individual line, no one wants a 4 star route with nothing else to climb around it. There are a lot of other reasons to do this, it makes it way easier to trundle the whole wall, you can clean way more thoroughly, you only need your drill for half as many days. 

The last two days I have rebolted we extracted 60 bolts. We will then place all the glue ins in one go.  

I so far have bolted maybe 20 climbs this winter and placed maybe 150 bolts. In two days, I was able to bolt two 15 bolt climbs climb them in october with this approach. Leland (the probably second most prolific developer in WA) goes probably a third as fast as I do when bolting because he brings everything. The real master of efficiency is Braden, if you are down in Seattle you should see him work. I think Michal does cleans first then bolts in index, which is obviously possible since it doesn't overhang a ton.

I know you are out at CB, which might not have a ton of moss, but using a drill with a grinding wheel is way better for very fine moss than a brush. 

timothy fisher · · CHARLOTTE · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 30

Fish for stuff sacks. Metolius" 5gallon bucket" bag for all things neede for rebolting.

bernard wolfe · · birmingham, al · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 300

A beefy thrift store computer brief.  Organizer pockets for tools and hardware and the padded case protects the drill

Dan Bachen · · Helena, MT · Joined Mar 2010 · Points: 1,345

These are great for bolting/ rebolting. Especially since they are about $10 each.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-5-in-10-Pocket-Utility-Sack-Tool-Bag-HD50200-TH/312387474

Dylan Pike · · Knoxville, TN · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 555
Dan Bachenwrote:

These are great for bolting/ rebolting. Especially since they are about $10 each.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-5-in-10-Pocket-Utility-Sack-Tool-Bag-HD50200-TH/312387474

I use something similar but with no rigid components. Just a beefy cordura bag with internal slots for tools/bits and outer loops for clipping stuff to (link here). I try to minimize what I bring with me - cleaning gear for the initial run up or down the wall, then bolting gear for putting in bolts. I can pretty comfortably clip everything I need to my harness or over the shoulder slings plus the bolt bag tied around my waist with a piece of webbing.

Matt Miccioli · · Lander, WY · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 1,935

I like using several of the free stuff sacks that come with BD harnesses. They also come in handy on walls for organizing things like toiletries, snacks, etc. You just have to remember to save them! 

bmdhacks · · Bellingham, WA · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 1,806
Princess Puppy Lovrwrote:

I so far have bolted maybe 20 climbs this winter and placed maybe 150 bolts. In two days, I was able to bolt two 15 bolt climbs climb them in october with this approach. 

That's amazing.  I'm much slower and methodical because I don't have the same eye for lines.  I've only been climbing a decade, and I just don't have the eye like some guys have.  Instead I clean a lot of space and TR the line ticking bolt locations then bolt after I've climbed it already.  I like this method because if there's a crux that I didn't anticipate being so hard, I can contrive the easier moves below and above to match the grade better.  Meanwhile Benjit just walks out and points 100ft up the wall and describes the crux moves and grade perfectly.

Thanks for describing your process though, it's cool to get a feel for how everybody does it.

I know you are out at CB, which might not have a ton of moss.

Oh... we have moss.

*EDIT* - That Home Depot bucket is dope, I'm getting one for sure

Adam Pequette · · Rapid City, SD · Joined Aug 2019 · Points: 999

I use the Black Diamond Street Creek 20 as my primary bolting bag.  Its like the Metolius Wall Bucket but it has shoulder straps.  I like being able to wear it for rapping, jugging, scrambling to get rigged, etc.  It has two very robust loops at the top.  I leash the drill, hammer, torque wrench, etc to one and use the other to attach the bag to the rope with a friction hitch.  This allows me to adjust it's height in orientation to myself when drilling as I don't attach anything to my harness.  It all goes in and out of  the bucket bag.  I organize all my bolts in a small stuff sack and have second small stuff sack for misc items.  If I'm going ground up on lead then I'll ditch pack and clip everything to the harness.   After 32 years of bolting this has worked well for me.
Desert Rock Sports · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Aug 2019 · Points: 2

Unfortunately most bags have the dreaded "black hole bag syndrome" where its difficult to find small parts inside them, as they are often black fabric inside and out.

I have some of this:
https://www.duplicolor.com/product/vinyl-and-fabric-coating/
In white that I'm going to test on a generic tool bag that suffers from the same problem. From youtube vids it looks like it may work decently well.

I ( https://www.instagram.com/climbguidecraft ) have sewed some bolting bags in the past using clear reinforced vinyl fabric. Lets a ton of light thru whether that be day light or headlamp. I don't have any available at the moment. I have also laminated white vinyl to black and sewn that into a bag, so at least the inside of a bag can be anything but black.

Rprops · · Nevada · Joined Nov 2015 · Points: 2,423
Desert Rock Sportswrote:

Can confirm his see through bags are dope. Little pockets for bits and everything. The little ones are good for missions, the big ones are good for wars. 

bmdhacks · · Bellingham, WA · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 1,806

If you think of doing another run of bags I'm down for one.

Beta Slave · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2022 · Points: 0

Bonus points if you wear Carhartt gear

Brian in SLC · · Sandy, UT · Joined Oct 2003 · Points: 22,821

I use an old A5 bag for my drills, bulb, brush and wrenches, and, heavier anchors.  Chalk bag for hangers and bolts.

Salamanizer Ski · · Off the Grid… · Joined Sep 2005 · Points: 20,899

I pick up heavy duty bags from military surplus stores when I see them. They’re usually pretty durable, cheap and have some way to close them up so you don’t drop stuff while swinging about, which is important. 

Kyran Keisling · · Page AZ · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 6,232

Functional yet fashionable. This bag held my junk like a champeen for a couple seasons! I highly recommend them but they're, of course, quite rare these days.

bmdhacks · · Bellingham, WA · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 1,806

Kyran Keisling · · Page AZ · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 6,232
bmdhackswrote:

You just gave me the best belly laugh I've had in a while.  Cheers!!!! 

Kyran Keisling · · Page AZ · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 6,232

Seriously though, I have liked my Beal Pro a lot. The plastic waist buckle sucks, and has long since been broken but I don't wrap it around my waist anyway. I just hang it from my harness. I really like the snap open and close feature of the pockets and gear loops. I've used it two full seasons and for all but the buckle it is really durable. 

matt hoffman · · Las Cruces · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 572

My go to for low-key bolting:
Husky tool bucket. It fits a hand drill, bits, maybe like 6-8 bolts, wrenches, etc.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-5-in-10-Pocket-Utility-Sack-Tool-Bag-HD50200-TH/312387474

My go to for rebolting or high-key bolting:
Metolius Bouldering Chalk Bucket (the pic is bad but this thing is sick)
No problem fitting bolt puller, as many bolts as you need, wrenches, special tools, pulled bolts, spinner, hand drill, whatever the fuck you want.
https://www.ems.com/metolius-climbing-bouldering-bucket-chalk-bag/1313634.html

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