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The Climb on HBO
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I liked most of it, but that multipitch episode was just terrible. |
Mc Kinna Krieghoff wrote: I wish the Scottish woman could have been there for the crack episode; she would've slayed it. Where in this thread has there been hate expressed toward women? |
Heyzeuswrote: No, the exact opposite. I think the 100 Foot Wave was (and is) amazing. I thought the original comment was that HBO content in general was crap. I found "The Climb" to be painfully over-scripted and often cheesy. But lots of worse content makes it onto TV so I'm not being pissy. I doubt there will be a season two. |
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Having now watched the whole show, I think it's fine as reality TV, and interesting enough if you're a climber. Clearly editorial assumption is that most of the audience is non-climbers, and we're used to that kind of coverage--though I'm not sure that it's totally necessary to mainstream it down that much given non-climbers were able to follow Free Solo and to a lesser extent the Dawn Wall. But probably in terms of reach an HBO reality show requires them taking it to another level. I do think that Chris Sharma now has some responsibility to educate his viewers on what really went into these folks doing this. IF he really is all about wanting more people to benefit from climbing as he has, and it works, he should use this platform to dial back the dangerous stuff that people are going to start doing modeled after the show. Maybe do a "making of" show that explains that the contenstants didn't "just go for it" climbing trad placing all their own gear, overcammed pieces, risking death with each move but doing it anyway. He can now go back and explain that one should get an experienced certified guide and instructor or mentor to learn how to trad climb. There was pre-placed gear interspersed with the bad placements by the contestants, and even some bolts. In other words, this was a highly controlled environment with multiple backup systems and professional climbers ensuring the risk of a groundfall was virtually zero at all stages of this competiton. Same for deep water soloing. These were well developed routes with scouted landings, etc. Or the highballing episode, that was not highball. People who are just getting into climbing or trained in the gym, should not, inspired by this show, just go out and "push themselves" on the danger/risk stuff. It's ironic that Honnold's film, which is about a deadly version of our sport, better addresses what goes into what he does, the real price people pay, and is likely to inspire fewer amateur imitators than The Climb is going to. I know a lot of it is HBO taking clips of Sharma and Martin talking about risk in order to hype up the viewers. But all that ommision of what risk they actually took or didn't is going to mislead people into thinking that it's all about "just do it" and people will get hurt. |
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Kat’s heal hook at the crux of The Ejector made my palms sweat. Blowing the pinch with the heal hook would be a bad fall. |
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Damn bro use the return key once in a while |
Live Perchedwrote: Heel. |
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Did anyone else notice Robyn was belaying upside down from the top on the multi pitch episode when she reached the top? She has the Grigri on regular and was pulling the rope up instead of down, to keep the brake hand down. Am I wrong or did anyone else catch this? |
Nick Hahawrote: The whole multipitch episode was a mess, they interspersed video of Cat following when they said he was leading, mixed footage of different pitches, did a terrible job describing rope management and how it differs from single pitch, I was not impressed. Definitely dug the final climbs, they looked pretty incredible. |
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I was bummed out at the way they handled the trad climbing. Like everyone else I noticed the pre-placed gear and I too could tell the climb was not a 5.12! But I was most annoyed by the way they described trad gear, as if trad placements are simply unreliable and hazardous to trust in a fall, under all circumstances. I also thought the multipitch episode was disappointing. So much hype about climbing more than one pitch! So much discussion of gear management, but then all four pitches were equipped with perma-draws! There was next to no gear to manage. And for all the talk of partner trust and communication, what we were presented with was basically just belaying. The final episode, with the deep water solo showdown, was much better. It made me glad I watched the show. |
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My six year old has been saying on repeat all week "there is a place called Wadi Rum." Thank you Momoa |
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I just finished it, I really liked it although I was hardly expecting much. Meagan was great, the contestants were (mostly) great, the show had clunky moments but whatever. The best episodes were the last two because there was more focus on climbing and they didn't have to feature as many people so the cuts were not as intense. There are obviously things that could be improved and I am sure climbers and non-climbers alike will have things to complain about. But for me, it filled a gap of some shit to watch that had some beautiful climbing footage and I got to add a couple places to the endless mental to-do list. Again, there were times it was boring and pedantic but unlike tv 30 years ago you dont have to sit through what you don't like. And if you miss a grade on a pitch, you can go back and look at it. I am happy it got made, maybe my standards are low or maybe it just doesn't matter that much. |
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Also by the way I guess those of you who don't know of Meagan are not into watching World Cups? She is a frequent commentator and her analysis of beta for comp boulders is really really good. |
SethGwrote: I hope this is sarcasm… |
SethGwrote: And she's a really good climber herself, indoor and outside, competed against the best on the USAC circuit and in numerous Opens, and is super active supporting the youth climbing circuit. It's disturbing how many people are questioning her credentials despite clearly knowing nothing of her resume. Explaining what's going on in climbing competitions to non-climbers (and armchair competitors) is actually her job. Why is nobody asking what Jason Momoa's hardest FA is? |
Innosanto Nagarawrote: I’m not sure it’s so much people questioning her credentials so much as it is that her resume is being blown way out of proportion. Climbing a handful of V11’s just isn’t that impressive by today’s standards, even for a female. |
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I'd say this thread alone has made me not care if I ever see the show. Sharma may be one of the best sport climbers ever, Momoa, besides coming from Baywatch, has been a decent actor(the red road at least) and Martin has always been an impressive plastic comp climber but the whole thing sounds like a shit show. They should have used an Asian ninja show format to help lighten things up, people want to see other people eat shit so they can laugh right? |
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falling off the wall in DWS is enough “eating shit” for me. SPLOOSH |
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DWS above a vat of used needles or factory farmed pig guts is what we want to see hur n 'murica. Maybe throw in some AR15 target shooting too. |
