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Why are women allowed to climb without a shirt in a gym but men cannot?
Baltimore McAllisterwrote: Marc801 C already beat me to it. All I will add is: None of your bolded points surprise me. Yes, I don't think you can imagine seeing the world through that lens. Yes, I reckon you would not be able to handle it. |
Khoiwrote: So whenever you enter a business you get a head count of each gender, figure out the percentages on your pocket calculator and then decide if it falls within your acceptable standards of modern society? A guy takes his shirt off in a gym and you feel somehow threatened or emasculated? That’s on you. I don’t handle it not because I can’t but because I don’t run around telling other people what to do. You’re just a modern day bully and like I said, that seems exhausting and just a lame, insecure way to view the world in general. Always looking for the social injustices and if you can’t obviously find one you figure one out for yourself. You are your own universe I guess. You do you, I’m just going to climb at the gym and not judge the place and every man in it the second I walk through the door. Uptight much? |
Ccfuchswrote: That is an insult to dumpster fires. MP - People having thoughts and misidentifying that as thinking. |
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Honest question. Given a choice of two gyms, 1. Gym requiring no clothes 2. Gym requiring shirt, shoes and pants Which gym would you pick? |
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The one that’s cheaper |
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Another honest question: If a person does something to make another feel “icky”, should the icky person be forced to change, or should the icked out person just press their ignore button? We’re talking about shirtless men here, as Tradi pointed out - ever been to a beach? The hygiene excuse is bogus Ironic that some people in an activity whose participants all covet physical fitness are bothered by a shirtless man. |
Kevin Worrallwrote: I'll go back to my original point about "ick" and sweat. If you're at the beach and sweating, it does not bother me in the least. If you're on a top rope and sweating and get the rope all wet, I'd rather not touch it and I hardly think I'm alone in that. Beyond that, climb naked for all I care. |
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Yesterday afternoon, in my gym, a young man wearing flannel pajama bottoms, no shirt and a beanie. The pajamas bothered me more than his upper half. Young guys also use the weight room in my gym topless sometimes. |
Kevin Worrallwrote: It’s really a financial decision: which path will bring in more paying clients. A good local survey could be telling. Going back to Frank’s post a la “no shirt, no shoes, no service”: seems the restaurant business would have a handle on the right balance for dining in. How much should that be relaxed for a gym? Again, it’s’ gonna depend on the local demographic. Reading a newspaper on a city-park bench is way different than reading a newspaper on the sinner’s bench during Sunday sermon. |
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Thinking about this.... There isn't really a compelling reason for a guy to be required to wear a shirt in a gym. Or anywhere, really. "No shirt no shoes no service" was a way for businesses to turn away "those damn hippies" who had long hair, wore little to no clothing, evaded the draft, sex drugs rock n roll and, and, well, all that other hanky panky society destroying commie burn in hell stuff going on. It's a leftover from that, I think. Just....cuz. Some other business has been doing that for a long time, so, let's follow that model. I don't think it's actual code, until you get to public nudity laws, or, food workers needing hair nets. But businesses can draw lines, so long as they aren't discriminatory in the legal sense. Gyms included. Most of this arbitrary stuff is just that. Arbitrary. Or people wanting everyone to follow their "rules", no matter how nonsensical the reasoning is. Like trying to criminalize librarians for checking out books. Ah progress. Best, Helen |
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The sports bra is not all that cool (temp-wise). And you guys have no clue how awful it is to have to wear a bra AND a shirt. Not comfortable at all! |
Barbara Fredettewrote: +99 |
Barbara Fredettewrote: I've heard the same complaints from guys wearing tighty whities AND pants. Nobody has answered the question. And Greg, you tend to get what you pay for at gyms, you should buck up and spend the extra 3.00 next time and try a fun gym. |
M Mwrote: I haven't paid for a gym membership in 21 years |
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Greg Daviswrote: Gyms used to be horrible horrible places 21 years ago |
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Ya think the new owner, OnX, will be more tolerant of posts like that than REÍ was? I’m thinking OnX is originally for toxic masculine animal slayers, as opposed to feminist tree hugging nature lovers, like REÍ was, so there might be hope for MP’s future! |
M Mwrote: I'd pick #1 where everyone has to be nude. |
M Mwrote: The ones that let dogs run loose in the gym literally had "pee gravel" instead of foam pads to fall in. Yummy. |
