site update

I knew Mountain Project wouldn't last forever, but this was earlier than I anticipated

Everything is significantly slower now. The search bar has pretty much been rendered useless for the time being. Hope this isn't permanent.

I liked Dan's comment and the blue thumbs up toggle is even fubar'd when you come back and view it. 

The search bar also now says find trails, cities, etc. 
TRAILS!? They surely just did a massive backend update making all the different apps they have into one MEGA proj. which will likely soon be followed by member$hip option$ and ability to search through all of their content on their various platforms. The latter is not necessarily bad.

…allows us to improve security…

I really appreciate this. The North Koreans hack my account on the weekly and leave dickhead comments that are most definitely not mine.

I hazard that they put someone in charge of the updates who knows absolutely nothing about climbing. Hence, you can search “cities and trails,” but not actual routes/climbs. 

Looks like "print a mini-guide" has also been removed.

EDIT: must have been retired earlier.  Not available in a 2020 Wayback Machine snapshot, either.

So where do we go once MP is unusable/becomes paywalled? Anybody working on a competitor?

Where you go is climbing. 

So a moderator send me a dm and said the search function is a problem they’re working on fixing.

The rest, who knows?

Have patience little ones.

Chill out everyone, they’re obviously doing some major updates. These things hardly ever go without snags.

On the Admin side, there are some even weirder things going on.  But have some faith, have some patience and let them do their work. 

If you have a proper development environment, pushing out breaking changes with this many bugs into production just isn't something that should be happening. It's 2022 not 2002.

Is the HTML being served kinda whacked? Looking at the source of this very forum post, there's embedded html documents within the HTML. Is that a thing you can do? 

This has all the hallmarks of a major framework change on the backend.  Not sure what stack they're on, but something like going from .Net Framework to .Net 7.  I'm sure they'll iron it out :)  I don't envy the chronically understaffed dev team (it's more than one person right?)

OnX should not have sole control over the route database.   This rough transition hints at some of the reasons why.  And this is unsurprising given that MP users have not paid a dime for the site. The lowest common denominator is where this combo tends to lead.

We now literally owe OnX our patience because this is what we’ve allowed and supported.

On the other hand, OnX could be more proactive.  Some advance warning would have been cheap.  And the advanced warning could have announced an official collection point for listing broken features due to the transition - also cheap and basically a burn down list for the development team for as long as someone is willing to pay them to fix such things. A little extra coin well spent would have been a polling feature to help prioritize the list.

And much as the development team might have it in their hearts, it seems unlikely that all will be fixed in this paradigm.

OnX should not have sole control over the route database.

why not, they paid for it. (according to your logic in the landlocked parcels discussion)

Lol what? Confront Nick? No.

I hate the new update (borderline unusable) and feel concerned about the direction MP is going under OnX, but that’s not the way to go about it.

A couple of comments from the peanut gallery. I noticed that since the update I have to login each time I visit the site. That is a no-visit feature for me. Especially as I go to main forum page, login, then get redirected to the main page.

I find the very slow loading of the main forum page to be quite annoying. Subforums load at a readable speed, just not the main form page. What I find odd is I see the webpage link go from sub forum->main forum->sub forum->main forum with the actual page going from sub forum -> main forum.

In addition, the marker for "Updated since last visit" is no longer accurate.

Where’s the emergency meeting point when this all goes south?