Climber Charles Barrett Arrested for Yosemite Sexual Assaults

Face Palmwrote:

that's my point

we have proof that he did time but no proof as to why

everything else is stuff from an anonymous poster, a photo of an envelope, a mention on a supertopo thread, and a reference to what mikey heard

he could have done time for something awful, it could have been weed (statistically most probable in a fed prison)

seems he is a violent guy, but we have no documented confirmation about the specific conviction

also my point

starting a sentence with "apparently" doesn't make it true

most of these 20 pages are speculation built upon speculation

there are very few verifiable facts

the info on this thread is no better quality than stuff on truth social

Had to try a quick fact check on the weed claim.  According to this study, weed is 12.4% of the federal drug offense prison population, so not very likely at all.  (As another detail, virtually all of the cases are for trafficking rather than possession; I don't know if I'd say someone is in "for weed" if they were dealing rather than just possessing, but that's beside the point.)

https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/dofp12.pdf

Andrew Ricewrote:

The other people with aliases aren't criticizing people for using aliases, dummy. That's why.

Since you seem to crave some "hard facts" I'll help you out. Here's the indictment for Charlie's Yosemite Prior that he went to Taft Federal Prison for. Looks like he got pulled over driving drunk in Yosemite (while also under 21) and then, later, slashed the personal vehicle tires of the arresting ranger and, a few days after that, made threats against the same ranger/witness.  Note that the original indictment had to be updated to add witness intimidation. You've got to be a real winner to turn a basic DUI into 6 months in the Federal Penitentiary for threatening a law enforcement officer.  He seems like a super fun climbing and camping buddy!

yeah it's wrong to "crave" hard facts when accusing someone of horrible things

i guess your standard is much lower

so CB's federal stint was for DUI and getting in a tussle with the valley leo rangers, the only witnesses and "victims" were cops

interesting though on page 10 of this thread, Andrew Rice wrote:

My friend who was assaulted by CB and then later stalked and threatened with murder by him was assaulted after being introduced in a social setting by mutual friends in the climbing world. This was AFTER CB had been in Federal prison for beating his girlfriend

and then on page 17:

I don't think anyone has alleged that the victim in Yosemite was drunk or otherwise impaired. I know that my friend wasn't. I also know that the victim of the Buttermilks Domestic Violence incident that sent CB to Federal prison for a year wasn't.

page 22:

 I've now heard from several of CB's victims, not just my friend who originally told me about her experience.

ok but

he didn't go to federal prison for beating his girlfriend, he didn't go to federal prison for a buttermilks domestic violence incident 

that doesn't prevent you from going on for days now telling these personal inside stories about how much you know

his complete federal rap sheet is on pacer and it only has the dui from two decades ago and the recent rape charges, none of the stuff you keep bringing up

all the other "facts" and "convictions" come from one anonymous poster who created an account just for this thread (and all of these victims that are talking to you and no one else)

i'm not saying CB is innocent, he's probably guilty AF

but that doesn't mean you aren't making stuff up, because "apparently" you are

Interesting takes. Are you JEleazarian?

Face Palmwrote:

interesting though on page 10 of this thread, Andrew Rice wrote:

and then on page 17:

page 22:

ok but

he didn't go to federal prison for beating his girlfriend, he didn't go to federal prison for a buttermilks domestic violence incident 

You're right about that. It was a separate incident.

Re. the Taft sentence: So you think the Yosemite ranger slashed his own tires and then made up threats being made against him by CB? And you think a US Attorney in Fresno went along with that and then CB pleaded rather than fight it in court? Seems plausible...

 

Also, "Face Palm," who are you? You seem to have a strongly held point of view about this stuff. Show some courage and interact with your real name. Otherwise you're just an anonymous monkey hurling shit at people. 

petzl logicwrote:

Interesting takes. Are you JEleazarian?

i am not

but now JEleazarian's statements about CB getting a raw deal makes more sense

his dui incident was serious, if you believe the cops

but we all know there's plenty of reason for valley leos to embellish the arrest of a dirtbag

his sentence was pretty harsh nonetheless, he did real time for a first offense with no real victim, i suspect most would normally get probation

but in the court of public opinion, with judge Andrew Rice presiding, that crime has been elevated to "beating his girlfriend"

am not JEleazarian, but I do know some of the characters in this conversation, more specifically an ex wife who also knows a thing about domestic violence

ladies, watch out for CB, and also watch out for recently divorced middle aged guys who are trolling the LA gym scene

Andrew Rice wrote: I had previously confused the DV incident with the Yosemite one because, like everyone else,

no, "not like everyone else" - just you!

(and are you really saying that cops never lie?, lol, you were saying the opposite several pages ago....)

Also, "Face Palm," who are you? You seem to have a strongly held point of view about this stuff. Show some courage and interact with your real name. Otherwise you're just an anonymous monkey hurling shit at people.

why aren't you asking the brand new anonymous user that is making all of these accusations the same question?

maybe you already know the answer...

Andrew Rice wrote:

Oh, I know who you are now. Hilarious. You should definitely use your real name.

What is felony "Corporal injury of a spouse" if not "beating his girlfriend?" What term would you prefer? Was it a boyfriend? A wife? A husband?

Weird suggestion that I'm "trolling the LA gym scene." I don't think I've been in a gym since early June. That's pretty weak "trolling." 

you probably don't know who I am but I'm guessing that won't stop you from gossiping and speculating

i never said that you were trolling the LA gym scene, it's curious that you associated that comment with yourself 

Thank god for post limits 

Face Palmwrote:

why aren't you asking the brand new anonymous user that is making all of these accusations the same question?

maybe you already know the answer...

First, answer the question. Who are you? Second, who is desperatelyseekinghumanity? The difference is that one has been doing research and finding documents, and you have been trolling. Your account is also newer than desperatelyseekinghumanity’s

Literally nothing FacePalm has said is backed by evidence, on the other hand his claims have been debunked. Big yikes.

Play stupid games like "Defend the Bigot" and win stupid prizes like "Get embarrased on the internet by Andrew Rice".

Joel Floreswrote:

Literally nothing FacePalm has said is backed by evidence, on the other hand his claims have been debunked. Big yikes.

That’s what I mean. Facepalm is attacking others while being far less credible. 

Adam Burch wrote:

I can't remember if I posted any knife pics on this thread yet.

I almost asked for some a few days ago when it became obvious even to me that there was no other way to salvage this thread.

Adam Burch wrote:

I can't remember if I posted any knife pics on this thread yet.

I think it's about time. 

Time for knives and goats, definitely.

Got any prototypes of the Cat S'litter™?

this seems relevant www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/claims-a-kansas-city-cop-was-raping-women-swirled-for-decades-his-arrest-brought-little-relief/ar-AA129fqf?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=aa1d4d77c1d34f03aee34ee070e06467

Adam Burch wrote:

So anyway this is a knife I made a while back - I really dig the crosscut vintage micarta.  I normally prefer natural handle materials but this is an exception I'll make alllll day long.

Like calling out the coroner to come zip up a thread in a body bag and drag it away

Heh, obviously not.

Easy come. Easy go.

The lonely life of a sock puppet. 

Andrew Ricewrote:

Is this a good model for slashing truck tires, or is there something else better? 

You’re gonna want something with more meat on the bone. Rubber tires don’t cut as easily as your privileged first world medium rare wagyu beef steaks.