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If outdoor climbing ceased to exist, would you still gym climb?

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JCM · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 115

A thought experiment:  Lets say that you are exiled for life to an island nation with zero rock climbing, but there is a good quality modern climbing gym.  Would you still climb at the gym? Would the frequency and motivation of your gym climbing increase or decrease?  Or would you just stop climbing and take up badmitten or powerlifting or whatever?

In short, is your motivation for the climbing gym merely to support your outdoor climbing, or does the gym for you stand as a worthy activity in its own right?

Aaron Wait · · North Bend, WA · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 2,241

I would still climb at the gym, but it would be casual.  I wouldn’t feel the push to train hard or anything.

Sam Beeduhl · · Bend, OR · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 443

On this island nation what else is there to do? If I could do all the other things I like to do, then no way in hell would I waste time in the gym. I would ski, trail run, bike, hike, anything that gets me outside in the mountains. If it was some tiny little atoll with no mountains I would take up diving, surfing, fishing, whatever. In other words it would have to be a really boring hell hole to spend time focused on an indoor activity with no pay-off for outside. 

Kevin Crum · · Oakdale · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 56

I was going to say no but then I realized since I started gym climbing again this summer, that  outdoor climbing and indoor climbing are my only opportunities for socializing in this increasingly lonely world of adulthood that I find myself in.

Only so much joy in having one’s head in a book all alone during the evening 

Princess Puppy Lovr · · Rent-n, WA · Joined Jun 2018 · Points: 1,756

I can’t even imagine how good I would be at creating threads if I had even more free time…

Andy Forquer · · Emeryville, CA · Joined May 2018 · Points: 5

100% - gym climbing is so fun!

Ry C · · Pacific Northwest · Joined Oct 2018 · Points: 0
JCMwrote:

A thought experiment:  Lets say that you are exiled for life to an island nation with zero rock climbing, but there is a good quality modern climbing gym.  

So basically...“If you had to move to Florida..”

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I’d still climb in the gym, but I’d probably shift my energy into surfing, kayaking, or paddling (or some other water sport). Whatever gets me outside. 

Victor Machtel · · Netherlands · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 0

I live in a country with virtually no outdoor climbing so yes, I would still gym climb.

climber pat · · Las Cruces NM · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 301

If the were no outdoor climbing I would never consider going to the climbing gym again.

Matt Robinson · · Saint Petersburg, FL · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 15

I already live in Florida, what do you think?

TBlom · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2004 · Points: 360

I live in a coastal flatland 5 hours from any climbing, and our gym is fairly short and mediocre.  So yes, I would definitely gym climbing.  It is still a lot of fun and feels great.

Cherokee Nunes · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2015 · Points: 0

No, but there wouldn't be any climbing gyms anyway. If money ceased to exist would you still go to the bank?

Chris Hatzai · · Bend, OR · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 1,815

Yes. It's still all about the movement. That or parkour! 

Mark Frumkin · · Bishop, CA · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 52

NO

Not Not MP Admin · · The OASIS · Joined Nov 2018 · Points: 17
Princess Puppy Lovrwrote:

I can’t even imagine how good I would be at creating threads if I had even more free time…

I vote we ban all outdoor climbing just to find out

slim · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2004 · Points: 1,083

That's a really tough question. I don't know.

phylp phylp · · Upland · Joined May 2015 · Points: 1,142

If outdoor climbing didn’t exist, we would build it. We’d crowdsource pieces of granite, limestone, basalt, volcanic tuff and anything else we could find, and create a Frankencliff. Because you have to feel real rock. Plastic doesn’t cut it. 

Nathan Doyle · · Gold Country, CA · Joined Feb 2016 · Points: 57

The gym is an hour away. When I went I only went once a week, on half off ($) day. I have fairly good rock closer than an hour, so I might as well go outside and climb. 

The issue, however, is I can't pull very hard (and why I like slab.) I'm just not able to get enough vert miles, compared to slabby granite miles, without having a gym next door or a gymy crag near by. It's all over an hour our away, so I'm forever playing catch up.

Anyway, the gym is super fun in and of itself, but I'd like one near by for training purposes, so I can then pull harder when I'm outside. But that's because I live in an area that is outside. If I lived in a city the gym might mean more to me, aside from being a gym for training. 

JCM · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 115
Ryan Never climbs wrote:

is mountaineering on or off? 

Off.

Val I · · Englewood, CO · Joined Apr 2011 · Points: 10

Absolutely not 

Princess Puppy Lovr · · Rent-n, WA · Joined Jun 2018 · Points: 1,756

I think if we looked at the thread where people stated their motivation for climbing we could figureout what they might do. I personally do not care about views, being outside, exposure, history, travelling. I like to try really hard at things, be left alone and push myself for improvement, climbing outside is just a fun medium for those things. 

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