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Ted Raven · · Squamish, BC · Joined Aug 2016 · Points: 220
M Mwrote:

Whether he fists guys or girls or himself I saw no true homophobia. Fistophobia?

Justin Trudeau is a man. I, too, am a man. If he says we’re probably fisting buddies, then he’s implying that we’re both gay. Implying that someone is gay pejoratively is homophobic.  

This really isn’t that hard. 

M M · · Maine · Joined Oct 2020 · Points: 2
Ted Ravenwrote:

Justin Trudeau is a man. I, too, am a man. If he says we’re probably fisting buddies, then he’s implying that we’re both gay. Implying that someone is gay pejoratively is homophobic.  

This really isn’t that hard. 

Two dudes can be fisting buddies without touching each other, at least in the language I was taught. I bet one could find some videos to prove this as well.

Jim T · · Colorado · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 469

Is labeling people like Muir as racist a dangerous, slippery slope?

Since 2021, people can’t suggest returning to the office without risking being labeled as racist.  They also can’t use terms like Master Bedroom or Master Bath without the same risk.


No One Wants to Return to the Office as much as White Men (because they are racist and sexist). https://time.com/6161239/return-to-office-white-men/

Jason EL · · Almostsomewhere, AL · Joined Jan 2021 · Points: 0
F r i t z wrote:

Ballers, if you want to accuse each other of being homeopathic and place Big Bros in ways that neither Trango nor your neighborhood friendly proctologist would condone, get a room. Let's see more of Karl Marx's righteous tats! 

Eric Marx.  The dude's name is Eric Marx.  Karl Marx was the dude with that moustache and cigar.  I don't know what his connection was with The Beatles, but I've heard him mentioned a lot along with John Lennon.

M M · · Maine · Joined Oct 2020 · Points: 2

Tats, racism within the founding fathers and fisting stuff. I approve of this thread.

How about Benjamin Franklin banging his slaves and selling his own children? The same guy helped write our constitution and declaration of independence! 

Ricky Harline · · Angel's Camp, CA · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 147
Jim Twrote:

Is labeling people like Muir as racist a dangerous, slippery slope?

Since 2021, people can’t suggest returning to the office without risking being labeled as racist.  They also can’t use terms like Master Bedroom or Master Bath without the same risk.


No One Wants to Return to the Office as much as White Men (because they are racist and sexist). https://time.com/6161239/return-to-office-white-men/

Did you actually read this article? I think the takeaway is much more that white men don't understand other people's perspectives. I've heard a lot of talk from women about feeling more comfortable working from home for various reasons, feeling less judged, not having to worry about appearance as much, being easier to manage their other responsibilities that women disproportionately bear.  

And I don't hear white dudes talking about that despite having heard women talk about it quite a bit. The thesis of that article is correct in my personal experience. 

Despite being in the furthest left political ideology I do think that sometimes (usually progressive liberals and not actually leftists) go too far in seeing everything through the lens of race, but probably 80% of the time complaints of woke-ness are just like this, which are people complaining that someone wants to consider perspectives of someone other than white dudes. 

Bill Lawry · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 1,821

More thread drift ….

Great point, Ricky.  Most open-minded people would wonder why twice as many white dudes want to get back to the office compared to black dudes.  Note: open-mindedness does not equate to racist. 

John RB · · Boulder, CO · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 194
Ricky Harlinewrote:

Yeah, fair enough. He's certainly a good sport about it! Maybe I'm overly sensitive about the crusty "the kids are having fun wrong" types since they annoy me so much. 

If we were around a campfire or at the crag I think would have understood your intention and that the aim was humor and not to insult. Hard to figure out on the internet and all, and I am rarely accused of having social skills, which ups the difficulty even further =P

I don't think there's an element of "the kids are having fun wrong" in what I said.  I'm older than the OP, true... but I have tattoos. And so did my dad.

Tattoos were not invented by 20-somethings...

Ricky Harline · · Angel's Camp, CA · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 147

Val wrote:

I bet you’re a lot of fun at parties.

Lol I ain't gonna pretend I'm fun at parties, we all know I'm not. Unless your idea of a fun party is discussing the fascinating intersection of liberalism and leftism, in which case my parties are ragers.

John RB wrote:

I don't think there's an element of "the kids are having fun wrong" in what I said.  I'm older than the OP, true... but I have tattoos. And so did my dad.

Tattoos were not invented by 20-somethings...

Yeah no, my bad, I'm rarely accused of having social skills. I read things wrong a lot.

You got any climbing tattoos? There ain't enough show and tell in this show and tell thread.

Max R · · Bend · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 292

Lets be real. John Muir wasn’t a low grade racist. The dude basically advocated for murdering all native americans in Yosemite.

But bro… the mountains are calling and i must go. 

Live Perched · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 21

Eric, thanks for sharing the pictures, the stories behind your tats and your thoughts about tattoos and reactions to people’s comments here.  All very interesting to me. I have always loved tattoos but never really wanted onethought of an image that was worthy of permanence nor did I want to pick something from a book.  Reading this I got answers to so many questions I have wanted to ask tattoo’d people. I have never asked someone why they got their tats or what the tats mean to them.  Asking about tats always seemed impolite.  

Your tattoos are very cool. All monochromatic but in different styles.   Great post. Thank you. 

F r i t z · · North Mitten · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 1,190
Ricky Harlinewrote:

 There ain't enough show and tell in this show and tell thread.




apologies for the shaved chest and lack of beard. The former was necessitated by the design, the latter by a job interview . Left to right: 

- My fraternity (Alpha Chi Rho Omega)

- Greek monograms of "sufficient grace."

- Hebrew for "beloved" with a shepherd's crook

- Hebrew for "it would have been enough" and "Prince of Peace" as designed by a certain Jewish old lady on MP.

- Latin for the mantra I repeat before every lead climb

- Greek for "blessed are the peacemakers, motherfucker"

- Luther Rose, even though I don't drink enough beer to be a Lutheran. (When Chongo Chuck saw this a couple months ago and learned that I didn't recant and don't regret, he blew a gasket and didn't even say thanks for the spliff and coffee, just took his toys and went home. Contrary to my evangelical brethren, I don't give a randy rodgering if you're a devout atheist or a fundamental LDS or a gluten-free Pastafarian, just don't be an insecure asshole about it).

Not pictured:

- Tricep: "Emmanuel" in Hebrew, as designed by the aforementioned OLH.

- Distal bicep: Greek monograms for "psyche hiatros," healer of souls.

- Deltoid: another variation on AXPW (fraternal order of exorcists)

Coming soon: Hebrew for the mantra I repeat before following every pitch. And a wraparound lattice to link the upper sleeve designs.

I've been on the one-a-year plan with Greg Heinz at Raw Canvas since 2014. One artist for life, monochrome only, right side only because I'm a southpaw and it incorporates some prior "autocartographical" designs, if you catch my DFW drift.

Like I said, none of these are explicitly rock-centric, but they all have intense personal meaning and stories behind them, and they all get a lot of vert, whether they like it or not. QED, they are climbing tattoos.

Dan Cooksey · · Pink Ford Thunderbird · Joined Jan 2014 · Points: 365
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Glowering · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 16

Max R · · Bend · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 292
Dan Cookseywrote:

You’re a racist. 

Dang, you got me. 

caesar.salad · · earth · Joined Dec 2012 · Points: 75

Can we just take a moment to admire how good the shading on the Muir tat actually is

Mark Pilate · · MN · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 25
F r i t zwrote:

…. all of my tattoos are climbing tattoos. They have no choice in the matter; I climb and they accompany me. 53 of the past 71 days on the road, most recently.

everyone just skipped right over the most amazing thing in this thread (forget John Muir)

How does Fritz manage to give his Tats some days off ?!?   Not sure I want to run into him on those days he’s climbing without his tats.  Not before breakfast anyway.  

Colonel Mustard · · Sacramento, CA · Joined Sep 2005 · Points: 1,257
Mark Pilatewrote:

everyone just skipped right over the most amazing thing in this thread (forget John Muir)

How does Fritz manage to give his Tats some days off ?!?   Not sure I want to run into him on those days he’s climbing without his tats.  Not before breakfast anyway.  

He slips into something a little more comfortable?

Dakota from North Dakota · · Boise, ID · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 2,543

These fuck. Shout out for the Listener deep cut. 

Webfoot · · Oregon · Joined Jul 2018 · Points: 0
Max Rwrote:

Lets be real. John Muir wasn’t a low grade racist. The dude basically advocated for murdering all native americans in Yosemite.

But bro… the mountains are calling and i must go. 

That sounds nothing like the John Muir described here.  https://vault.sierraclub.org/john_muir_exhibit/life/racist-or-admirer-of-native-americans-raymond-bennett.aspx

With everyone there is bound to be both good and bad but these statements don't seem to fit the same person.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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