New and Experienced climbers over 50 #20

It’s finally a beautiful weekend day here, and I’m hobbling around the house with  a cane.  I never take pain killers, but I’ve been hitting the advil in order to sleep at night.   I did  hang on the board this morning, but I’m champing at the bit to get outside and do some climbing.  Looks like that is quite a ways off.

Todd Berlier wrote:

in the early 90s i worked in a hot dog factory in cincinnati. they made dogs for kroger, oscar meyer, nathans, john morrell and others i can't remember. i dont eat them.

My grandmother worked in a slaughterhouse and told me how the waste materials went into hot dogs.  Never ate another one since then, more than 60 years ago.

Hopefully practices in the meat packing industry have improved but ?????

Isa  is a vegetarian but she has been giving Bernie pieces of hot dog as treats. totally grosses me out. I occasionally give him pieces of steak but never hot dogs. 

Well this thread took an alarming turn. What did Chicago feed me, then???

Passport just arrived today. Makes me feel like a grownup, somehow. But it also feels kinda real AARP, lol!

No plans, just....cuz.

Best, Helen

Todd Berlier wrote:

for me that's torture! 

i cant take opioids--they make me itchy all over my body. probably a good thing.

get well soon.

Advil is not an opioid.  I’ve never taken opioids as I have an addictive personality.  Don’t usually take NSAIDS either because they’ve inhibit healing, but I’m in pretty bad shape and it’s the only way I can sleep.

It does seem to be improving slightly.  My wife wants me to go to the doctor on Monday but that is a last resort.   I’ve had so many doctors blow really simple diagnoses that I have very little trust in them.

Ward, voltaren has been available as a topical formulation for about 3 yrs. I like to use that when I can rather than my diclofenac pills. But really, ice is also really good for knee inflammation. 

phylp phylp wrote:

Ward, voltaren has been available as a topical formulation for about 3 yrs. I like to use that when I can rather than my diclofenac pills. But really, ice is also really good for knee inflammation. 

Haven’t tried topical voltaren.  I do use DMSO which usually works wonders when used immediately after the injury, sometimes it is miraculous but not on this one.  I also take high doses of curcumin.  Will have to try the topical voltaren.  Yes and ice….

Forgot to say it’s otc - just look at the pharmacy, no rx needed. 

Ward Smith wrote:

Wow, I feel your pain Todd.  I woke up this morning and my knee is killing me.  Absolutely no idea what I did.

Hey Ward I hope you’re starting to feel better. I am just at the end of six or eight weeks recovering from my knee injury and it was incredibly painful. Having never had a real climbing injury before I didn’t know what to expect and I was scared. My doctor diagnosed it as a lateral tendon sprain and prescribed 800 mg of ibuprofen 3x and a topical prescription ibuprofen along with several braces and tapes. For the first few weeks I also had a hard time sleeping and especially if I accidentally moved even the slightly wrong way  it would just send me through the roof. I only took one dose of ibuprofen and I used the topical one time but I don’t like the way drugs make me feel. However the brace was incredible and allowed me to start moving again. I am still wearing the brace most of the time when I climb and I still get twinges out of nowhere but mostly this has healed. Doesn’t hurt to see a doctor just find out what is going on but if it’s not serious it’s probably just going to require time and love to heal it. 

phylp phylp wrote:

Ward, voltaren has been available as a topical formulation for about 3 yrs. I like to use that when I can rather than my diclofenac pills. But really, ice is also really good for knee inflammation. 

Thanks for the tip!
I have been looking for topical replacements for many years now.  Yeah. ice.  Totally.  Lots of it tonight after my training session today.

Ward Smith wrote:

It’s finally a beautiful weekend day here, and I’m hobbling around the house with  a cane.  I never take pain killers, but I’ve been hitting the advil in order to sleep at night.   I did  hang on the board this morning, but I’m champing at the bit to get outside and do some climbing.  Looks like that is quite a ways off.

Yeah, I felt guilty climbing indoors today but the wind was cold at 11a.  I was told I just missed your wife at Hadley.  Too bad.
After warmups, I did a bunch of the new routes with no grades on them. Def makes for being more delibrate and slower. I think most of them were in the .10 to .11 range. Nothng to complain about; got in 14 routes and about 500 feet of climbing.

Hope you heal up quickly and completely.  And take it easy with the wine.  I should talk; tonight I hav enot held back.  I think I am going to regret it tomorrow! :) 

Carl Schneider wrote:

Indeed it is Taipan wall. I’ve climbed on Spurt wall, right of Taipan, but yeah, Taipan is very hard. It’s currently closed but apparently it will open again.

Whaat led to closure?  Yeah, what an beautiful and intimidating wall.  Maybe, someday ..... 

S. Neoh wrote:

Whaat led to closure?  Yeah, what an beautiful and intimidating wall.  Maybe, someday ..... 

Protection of cultural values.  

I went bouldering today. Felt pathetic. Didn’t finish one problem (V1s and V2s).

From my new favorite Semi-Rad guy...  I now feel reminded that it's ok to say "That was the greatest climb ever!"      (Carl, hang in there, you are in the greatest climbing place ever! You'll do better today.)

"Kurt Vonnegut, in a 2003 speech to students at the University of Wisconsin, said,

“I urge you to please notice when you are happy, and exclaim or murmur or think at some point, ‘If this isn’t nice, I don’t know what is.'”

In 2022, I urge you to notice when something is awesome, as it often is, and exclaim or murmur or just make a mental note of it. Isn’t it just goddamn fantastic that you have your health, for example? Or running water, or electricity? Or that you have enough money to actually pay someone else to make you a cup of coffee? Or if you want ice cream, you are at any time in America probably only 5 or 10 minutes away from a place that sells some form of it? (Trust me on that one)

Your life, even the bad parts, is fucking amazing. And most of the small things that make up your life are amazing, too — mountain bike rides, rock climbs, ski runs, sunsets, stars, friends, people, girlfriends and boyfriends, dogs, songs, movies, jokes, smiles … hell, even that burrito you ate for lunch today was pretty phenomenal, wasn’t it?

What was your enthusiasm for these things last year? I recommend you step it up in 2022.

People can disagree with things like quality, maybe your taste in food, or whether or not a movie is good. But no one can argue with enthusiasm, especially when it is over the top.

Do you think that climb you just did is the greatest climb ever? Great! If someone tries to tell you it isn’t, who cares? “Greatest Rock Climb Ever” is not an objective title. Thusly, when you are excited about a climb (or a trail run or a summit view or a bike ride or a sunrise), don’t let anyone bring you down.

A conversation where someone puts down your favorite ski area/mountain/rock climb/trail/burrito is not a conversation about ski areas/mountains/rock climbs/trails/burritos. It is a conversation about that person being a pompous asshole. Go forth and be positive in 2022.

Enthusiasm doesn’t have to stand up to criticism. It doesn’t even have to really make sense. If you finish a ski run, MTB trail or sport climbing route, and you like love it, I encourage you to try out new superlatives when describing it to someone else. This goes for everything you’re excited about. Examples:

• “I’m just going to tell you now that Outer Space is the most incredible rock climb you will ever do. You cannot not smile while climbing it. It’s like the Beatles. Even if you for some ridiculous reason don’t enjoy it, you can’t deny its inherent goodness.”
• “Have you heard the new Bear Garden album? It will knock you on your ass!”
• “The Eggplant Parmesan sub at Pasquini’s is probably my favorite sandwich in the entire city of Denver, if not the state of Colorado. In fact, now that I’ve said that, I think we should go to Pasquini’s immediately.”

Maybe some of the stuff you like love, that you’re passionate about, isn’t cool. Hey, this is 2022. Everything is cool. Irony is either everything, or dead. Be honest: When you see someone wearing a Motley Crue t-shirt, you don’t know if they’re serious, or wearing it to be ironic, do you? Do you like Motley Crue? Then ROCK THAT SHIT. And spread happiness.

Remember it is not illegal to high-five anyone. Do you use exclamation points in the salutations of your e-mails? Well, why not?"

Voltaren could be good if it didn't take 5-7 days for anything to happen.

Lori Milas wrote:

From my new favorite Semi-Rad guy...  I now feel reminded that it's ok to say "That was the greatest climb ever!"      (Carl, hang in there, you are in the greatest climbing place ever! You'll do better today.)

"Kurt Vonnegut, in a 2003 speech to students at the University of Wisconsin, said,

“I urge you to please notice when you are happy, and exclaim or murmur or think at some point, ‘If this isn’t nice, I don’t know what is.'”

In 2022, I urge you to notice when something is awesome, as it often is, and exclaim or murmur or just make a mental note of it. Isn’t it just goddamn fantastic that you have your health, for example? Or running water, or electricity? Or that you have enough money to actually pay someone else to make you a cup of coffee? Or if you want ice cream, you are at any time in America probably only 5 or 10 minutes away from a place that sells some form of it? (Trust me on that one)

Your life, even the bad parts, is fucking amazing. And most of the small things that make up your life are amazing, too — mountain bike rides, rock climbs, ski runs, sunsets, stars, friends, people, girlfriends and boyfriends, dogs, songs, movies, jokes, smiles … hell, even that burrito you ate for lunch today was pretty phenomenal, wasn’t it?

What was your enthusiasm for these things last year? I recommend you step it up in 2022.

People can disagree with things like quality, maybe your taste in food, or whether or not a movie is good. But no one can argue with enthusiasm, especially when it is over the top.

Do you think that climb you just did is the greatest climb ever? Great! If someone tries to tell you it isn’t, who cares? “Greatest Rock Climb Ever” is not an objective title. Thusly, when you are excited about a climb (or a trail run or a summit view or a bike ride or a sunrise), don’t let anyone bring you down.

A conversation where someone puts down your favorite ski area/mountain/rock climb/trail/burrito is not a conversation about ski areas/mountains/rock climbs/trails/burritos. It is a conversation about that person being a pompous asshole. Go forth and be positive in 2022.

Enthusiasm doesn’t have to stand up to criticism. It doesn’t even have to really make sense. If you finish a ski run, MTB trail or sport climbing route, and you like love it, I encourage you to try out new superlatives when describing it to someone else. This goes for everything you’re excited about. Examples:

• “I’m just going to tell you now that Outer Space is the most incredible rock climb you will ever do. You cannot not smile while climbing it. It’s like the Beatles. Even if you for some ridiculous reason don’t enjoy it, you can’t deny its inherent goodness.”
• “Have you heard the new Bear Garden album? It will knock you on your ass!”
• “The Eggplant Parmesan sub at Pasquini’s is probably my favorite sandwich in the entire city of Denver, if not the state of Colorado. In fact, now that I’ve said that, I think we should go to Pasquini’s immediately.”

Maybe some of the stuff you like love, that you’re passionate about, isn’t cool. Hey, this is 2022. Everything is cool. Irony is either everything, or dead. Be honest: When you see someone wearing a Motley Crue t-shirt, you don’t know if they’re serious, or wearing it to be ironic, do you? Do you like Motley Crue? Then ROCK THAT SHIT. And spread happiness.

Remember it is not illegal to high-five anyone. Do you use exclamation points in the salutations of your e-mails? Well, why not?"

I don't know. I once saw where someone posted (on MP) one of the best jam bands ever (The Dead) were terrible musicians   .  Buy, yeah, any day outside is the best day ever.  Even the cold, rainy days drilling wells for 14 hours a day spawn some good memories.  And cold days by the fire, inside, are good too ! (the ! is for you, Lori)

Todd i shouldn't be surprised by this, but it still creeps me out. im not the most voracious vegetable eater, so i searched on my phone for Athletic Greens hearing about the product from a Climbing Gold podcast. 5 days later a flyer for the product showed up in my mailbox. 

any of you have the same thing happen?

LOL, Todd, this has been happening for years. Think that’s creepy, try just talking about something with your cell phone in the room and then see the ads pop up in your Facebook feed. 

Lori Milas wrote:

From my new favorite Semi-Rad guy...  I now feel reminded that it's ok to say "That was the greatest climb ever!"      (Carl, hang in there, you are in the greatest climbing place ever! You'll do better today.)

"Kurt Vonnegut, in a 2003 speech to students at the University of Wisconsin, said,

“I urge you to please notice when you are happy, and exclaim or murmur or think at some point, ‘If this isn’t nice, I don’t know what is.'”

In 2022, I urge you to notice when something is awesome, as it often is, and exclaim or murmur or just make a mental note of it. Isn’t it just goddamn fantastic that you have your health, for example? Or running water, or electricity? Or that you have enough money to actually pay someone else to make you a cup of coffee? Or if you want ice cream, you are at any time in America probably only 5 or 10 minutes away from a place that sells some form of it? (Trust me on that one)

Your life, even the bad parts, is fucking amazing. And most of the small things that make up your life are amazing, too — mountain bike rides, rock climbs, ski runs, sunsets, stars, friends, people, girlfriends and boyfriends, dogs, songs, movies, jokes, smiles … hell, even that burrito you ate for lunch today was pretty phenomenal, wasn’t it?

What was your enthusiasm for these things last year? I recommend you step it up in 2022.

People can disagree with things like quality, maybe your taste in food, or whether or not a movie is good. But no one can argue with enthusiasm, especially when it is over the top.

Do you think that climb you just did is the greatest climb ever? Great! If someone tries to tell you it isn’t, who cares? “Greatest Rock Climb Ever” is not an objective title. Thusly, when you are excited about a climb (or a trail run or a summit view or a bike ride or a sunrise), don’t let anyone bring you down.

A conversation where someone puts down your favorite ski area/mountain/rock climb/trail/burrito is not a conversation about ski areas/mountains/rock climbs/trails/burritos. It is a conversation about that person being a pompous asshole. Go forth and be positive in 2022.

Enthusiasm doesn’t have to stand up to criticism. It doesn’t even have to really make sense. If you finish a ski run, MTB trail or sport climbing route, and you like love it, I encourage you to try out new superlatives when describing it to someone else. This goes for everything you’re excited about. Examples:

• “I’m just going to tell you now that Outer Space is the most incredible rock climb you will ever do. You cannot not smile while climbing it. It’s like the Beatles. Even if you for some ridiculous reason don’t enjoy it, you can’t deny its inherent goodness.”
• “Have you heard the new Bear Garden album? It will knock you on your ass!”
• “The Eggplant Parmesan sub at Pasquini’s is probably my favorite sandwich in the entire city of Denver, if not the state of Colorado. In fact, now that I’ve said that, I think we should go to Pasquini’s immediately.”

Maybe some of the stuff you like love, that you’re passionate about, isn’t cool. Hey, this is 2022. Everything is cool. Irony is either everything, or dead. Be honest: When you see someone wearing a Motley Crue t-shirt, you don’t know if they’re serious, or wearing it to be ironic, do you? Do you like Motley Crue? Then ROCK THAT SHIT. And spread happiness.

Remember it is not illegal to high-five anyone. Do you use exclamation points in the salutations of your e-mails? Well, why not?"

https://semi-rad.com/2021/12/make-2022-the-year-of-maximum-enthusiasm/

Todd Berlier wrote:

HELP!!!

thanks for your attention ;)

i shouldn't be surprised by this, but it still creeps me out. im not the most voracious vegetable eater, so i searched on my phone for Athletic Greens hearing about the product from a Climbing Gold podcast. 5 days later a flyer for the product showed up in my mailbox. 

any of you have the same thing happen?

will one of you do that search, go to the website and click around on products and see if u get a flyer in the mail?

That's nothing. Last week I was poking around up in Death Valley in the jeep. I drove over Steele Pass, from Eureka Dunes over and down through Panamint Hot Springs. I was behind schedule so I just stopped and looked around for a quick minute and went on my way. The place is a small scale commercial venture with camping to rent. 

Now I get ads on FB for the place. I didn't even talk to anyone, and my phone was in airplane mode (I don't like leaving a trail of cell phone pings). So, obviously, FB has access to my car's GPS info.