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Martin Bril
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Jan 21, 2022
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Anchorage, AK
· Joined Sep 2017
· Points: 0
I know I'm going to get some hate for what I'm about to say, but here it goes... So you got yourself a nice deal on that sweet belay parka you were obsessing about for a while and would of course never buy full price so that you can save money for more gear. What a great time that was, now it's collecting dust in your closet after couple outings last winter. You're telling yourself, well maybe it's time to sell... Let me give you a few tips that might help you make the best decision possible: - Nobody will buy your used gear at 20 percent off full price. I don't have a single climbing buddy who shows up at REI, disregards all the discounts and goes straight to the counter with a full retail tag on their gear. We all look to score the lowest price possible, because gear is expensive. Unless in a dry spell, every single online store will offer between 10 and 25 percent off full price. You are not doing anybody a favor selling used gear for what someone with a computer, internet access and an hour to kill could easily find online, brand new. You're actually telling people they are idiots and you're about to make money off of them. Nice. - You are getting rid of gear you don't need, not opening an online retail store The gear you are selling has most likely been bought at a discount and now you are trying to offload it on people for what you paid for. Not only that but you probably used it a fair share. My rule of thumb is anything that has been well used has to go for quite a bit over 50 percent off full price. Maybe 60 percent. If it was used a handful of times, something like 40 to 50 percent off. If it was never used, at the minimum what it would cost a new buyer with a Black Friday discount, 30 to 40 percent off. Again, you are not and will not be making money off of used gear. You're giving someone a sweet deal for something you are no longer using (and can't return for a refund). - Your gear is not worth what you think it's worth You don't have an antique piece of climbing gear that Conrad Anker would love to hang over his mantel. He'd probably give it away to charity because someone else could make good use of it. Now you clearly need a little bit of cash back for something that cost you a week's wages. But the thing is, your gear is not really worth that much at this point. DWR wears out, ice picks get too damaged to not warranty a replacement, insulation loses its loft, etc.. So whatever it is, you have to think about what efficiency the gear has lost and what that means for someone who will use it after you. Overpricing your used gear will simply make you look like a fool. And lastly, if you are not willing to bargain and let your gear go for less than you anticipated, maybe you shouldn't be selling..? Just a thought.
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Rocrates
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Jan 21, 2022
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The Forum
· Joined Apr 2020
· Points: 15
Martin Brilwrote:I know I'm going to get some hate for what I'm about to say, but here it goes... So you got yourself a nice deal on that sweet belay parka you were obsessing about for a while and would of course never buy full price so that you can save money for more gear. What a great time that was, now it's collecting dust in your closet after couple outings last winter. You're telling yourself, well maybe it's time to sell... Let me give you a few tips that might help you make the best decision possible: - Nobody will buy your used gear at 20 percent off full price. I don't have a single climbing buddy who shows up at REI, disregards all the discounts and goes straight to the counter with a full retail tag on their gear. We all look to score the lowest price possible, because gear is expensive. Unless in a dry spell, every single online store will offer between 10 and 25 percent off full price. You are not doing anybody a favor selling used gear for what someone with a computer, internet access and an hour to kill could easily find online, brand new. You're actually telling people they are idiots and you're about to make money off of them. Nice. - You are getting rid of gear you don't need, not opening an online retail store The gear you are selling has most likely been bought at a discount and now you are trying to offload it on people for what you paid for. Not only that but you probably used it a fair share. My rule of thumb is anything that has been well used has to go for quite a bit over 50 percent off full price. Maybe 60 percent. If it was used a handful of times, something like 40 to 50 percent off. If it was never used, at the minimum what it would cost a new buyer with a Black Friday discount, 30 to 40 percent off. Again, you are not and will not be making money off of used gear. You're giving someone a sweet deal for something you are no longer using (and can't return for a refund). - Your gear is not worth what you think it's worth You don't have an antique piece of climbing gear that Conrad Anker would love to hang over his mantel. He'd probably give it away to charity because someone else could make good use of it. Now you clearly need a little bit of cash back for something that cost you a week's wages. But the thing is, your gear is not really worth that much at this point. DWR wears out, ice picks get too damaged to not warranty a replacement, insulation loses its loft, etc.. So whatever it is, you have to think about what efficiency the gear has lost and what that means for someone who will use it after you. Overpricing your used gear will simply make you look like a fool. And lastly, if you are not willing to bargain and let your gear go for less than you anticipated, maybe you shouldn't be selling..? Just a thought.
You could just post “I am poor.” and get the same point across.
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Dirt King
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Jan 21, 2022
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AK
· Joined Jun 2018
· Points: 2
Martin Brilwrote:I know I'm going to get some hate for what I'm about to say, but here it goes... So you got yourself a nice deal on that sweet belay parka you were obsessing about for a while and would of course never buy full price so that you can save money for more gear. What a great time that was, now it's collecting dust in your closet after couple outings last winter. You're telling yourself, well maybe it's time to sell... Let me give you a few tips that might help you make the best decision possible: - Nobody will buy your used gear at 20 percent off full price. I don't have a single climbing buddy who shows up at REI, disregards all the discounts and goes straight to the counter with a full retail tag on their gear. We all look to score the lowest price possible, because gear is expensive. Unless in a dry spell, every single online store will offer between 10 and 25 percent off full price. You are not doing anybody a favor selling used gear for what someone with a computer, internet access and an hour to kill could easily find online, brand new. You're actually telling people they are idiots and you're about to make money off of them. Nice. - You are getting rid of gear you don't need, not opening an online retail store The gear you are selling has most likely been bought at a discount and now you are trying to offload it on people for what you paid for. Not only that but you probably used it a fair share. My rule of thumb is anything that has been well used has to go for quite a bit over 50 percent off full price. Maybe 60 percent. If it was used a handful of times, something like 40 to 50 percent off. If it was never used, at the minimum what it would cost a new buyer with a Black Friday discount, 30 to 40 percent off. Again, you are not and will not be making money off of used gear. You're giving someone a sweet deal for something you are no longer using (and can't return for a refund). - Your gear is not worth what you think it's worth You don't have an antique piece of climbing gear that Conrad Anker would love to hang over his mantel. He'd probably give it away to charity because someone else could make good use of it. Now you clearly need a little bit of cash back for something that cost you a week's wages. But the thing is, your gear is not really worth that much at this point. DWR wears out, ice picks get too damaged to not warranty a replacement, insulation loses its loft, etc.. So whatever it is, you have to think about what efficiency the gear has lost and what that means for someone who will use it after you. Overpricing your used gear will simply make you look like a fool. And lastly, if you are not willing to bargain and let your gear go for less than you anticipated, maybe you shouldn't be selling..? Just a thought.
We get it, shipping to Alaska is "expensive"
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Travis Klein
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Jan 21, 2022
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Aug 2020
· Points: 0
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Evan Noronha
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Jan 21, 2022
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Salt Lake City
· Joined Apr 2019
· Points: 14
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Lyle M
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Jan 21, 2022
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New Haven, Ct
· Joined Aug 2018
· Points: 586
Just eat pbj until it’s affordable like everyone else
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Brooke W
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Jan 22, 2022
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Minneapolis, MN
· Joined Oct 2019
· Points: 0
Dude's all pissed off because he's so dirtbag poor that he can't even afford the used gear. Pro tip: it's cheapest to boulder.
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Sam Oudekerk
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Jan 22, 2022
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Williams, AZ
· Joined Sep 2017
· Points: 0
I think this guy is right. Even for gear that you took the tags off and never used 35-40% off and free shipping should be the standard. Also, if you’re actually trying to turn your junk into $$$, price it a bit lower. Never hurts to give somebody a good deal.
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Chris Topher
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Jan 22, 2022
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2018
· Points: 5
The gear is worth what people are wiling to buy it for.
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Matthew Jaggers
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Jan 22, 2022
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Red River Gorge
· Joined Sep 2017
· Points: 695
My favorite is ULMC for $50! Lol. Literally $44 anytime they go on sale.
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John W
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Jan 22, 2022
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Denver, CO
· Joined Feb 2018
· Points: 75
Ted would like to speak with you
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Nick Herrschaft
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Jan 22, 2022
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Jackson, Wy
· Joined Jun 2020
· Points: 0
It’s called inflation… look it up
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Tim M
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Jan 22, 2022
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none
· Joined Sep 2008
· Points: 308
Truth. Some of the asking prices for used cams here are ridiculous.
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Jericho H
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Jan 22, 2022
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Buena Vista, CO
· Joined May 2018
· Points: 90
The climbing Czar has spoken…. his mind?
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Erik Strand
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Jan 22, 2022
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Nov 2019
· Points: 0
Chris Topherwrote:The gear is worth what people are wiling to buy it for. This is not a valid excuse to use a deal I shared in the great deals thread, just to decide you don't want the jacket (that you can return to the store without a problem) and then try to sell it for $75 more than what you paid for it. That's just sleezy and I've seen it happen multiple times on here.
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Nick Innh
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Jan 22, 2022
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A conversion
· Joined May 2019
· Points: 0
Martin Brilwrote:I know I'm going to get some hate for what I'm about to say, but here it goes... So you got yourself a nice deal on that sweet belay parka you were obsessing about for a while and would of course never buy full price so that you can save money for more gear. What a great time that was, now it's collecting dust in your closet after couple outings last winter. You're telling yourself, well maybe it's time to sell... Let me give you a few tips that might help you make the best decision possible: - Nobody will buy your used gear at 20 percent off full price. I don't have a single climbing buddy who shows up at REI, disregards all the discounts and goes straight to the counter with a full retail tag on their gear. We all look to score the lowest price possible, because gear is expensive. Unless in a dry spell, every single online store will offer between 10 and 25 percent off full price. You are not doing anybody a favor selling used gear for what someone with a computer, internet access and an hour to kill could easily find online, brand new. You're actually telling people they are idiots and you're about to make money off of them. Nice. - You are getting rid of gear you don't need, not opening an online retail store The gear you are selling has most likely been bought at a discount and now you are trying to offload it on people for what you paid for. Not only that but you probably used it a fair share. My rule of thumb is anything that has been well used has to go for quite a bit over 50 percent off full price. Maybe 60 percent. If it was used a handful of times, something like 40 to 50 percent off. If it was never used, at the minimum what it would cost a new buyer with a Black Friday discount, 30 to 40 percent off. Again, you are not and will not be making money off of used gear. You're giving someone a sweet deal for something you are no longer using (and can't return for a refund). - Your gear is not worth what you think it's worth You don't have an antique piece of climbing gear that Conrad Anker would love to hang over his mantel. He'd probably give it away to charity because someone else could make good use of it. Now you clearly need a little bit of cash back for something that cost you a week's wages. But the thing is, your gear is not really worth that much at this point. DWR wears out, ice picks get too damaged to not warranty a replacement, insulation loses its loft, etc.. So whatever it is, you have to think about what efficiency the gear has lost and what that means for someone who will use it after you. Overpricing your used gear will simply make you look like a fool. And lastly, if you are not willing to bargain and let your gear go for less than you anticipated, maybe you shouldn't be selling..? Just a thought.
While I agree with you, and I completely agree with you on ensuring you just said from numbers to reasoning, I'm not sure it needs to be said. When someone lists something for you much, and we all have, no one buys it. The seller learns and we all move on.
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PortlandRob
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Jan 22, 2022
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2015
· Points: 369
Lol, there's a lot of haters here who must be bitter they no one wanted to buy their used loopless camalots from 1999 for $50 each. Side note, I have a lightly used Tommy Bahama shirt I've posted for sale, only $45; DM me. Has almost all the original buttons.
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Garrett Hopkins
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Jan 23, 2022
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North Freedom, Wi
· Joined Feb 2018
· Points: 80
Martin Brilwrote:I know I'm going to get some hate for what I'm about to say, but here it goes... So you got yourself a nice deal on that sweet belay parka you were obsessing about for a while and would of course never buy full price so that you can save money for more gear. What a great time that was, now it's collecting dust in your closet after couple outings last winter. You're telling yourself, well maybe it's time to sell... Let me give you a few tips that might help you make the best decision possible: - Nobody will buy your used gear at 20 percent off full price. I don't have a single climbing buddy who shows up at REI, disregards all the discounts and goes straight to the counter with a full retail tag on their gear. We all look to score the lowest price possible, because gear is expensive. Unless in a dry spell, every single online store will offer between 10 and 25 percent off full price. You are not doing anybody a favor selling used gear for what someone with a computer, internet access and an hour to kill could easily find online, brand new. You're actually telling people they are idiots and you're about to make money off of them. Nice. - You are getting rid of gear you don't need, not opening an online retail store The gear you are selling has most likely been bought at a discount and now you are trying to offload it on people for what you paid for. Not only that but you probably used it a fair share. My rule of thumb is anything that has been well used has to go for quite a bit over 50 percent off full price. Maybe 60 percent. If it was used a handful of times, something like 40 to 50 percent off. If it was never used, at the minimum what it would cost a new buyer with a Black Friday discount, 30 to 40 percent off. Again, you are not and will not be making money off of used gear. You're giving someone a sweet deal for something you are no longer using (and can't return for a refund). - Your gear is not worth what you think it's worth You don't have an antique piece of climbing gear that Conrad Anker would love to hang over his mantel. He'd probably give it away to charity because someone else could make good use of it. Now you clearly need a little bit of cash back for something that cost you a week's wages. But the thing is, your gear is not really worth that much at this point. DWR wears out, ice picks get too damaged to not warranty a replacement, insulation loses its loft, etc.. So whatever it is, you have to think about what efficiency the gear has lost and what that means for someone who will use it after you. Overpricing your used gear will simply make you look like a fool. And lastly, if you are not willing to bargain and let your gear go for less than you anticipated, maybe you shouldn't be selling..? Just a thought.
This post being directly underneath a post from someone trying to sell a MM Cadillac at almost retail when it’s been well used LOL
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Matthew Jaggers
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Jan 23, 2022
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Red River Gorge
· Joined Sep 2017
· Points: 695
I just like like that this was posted in the FS/FF/WTB section! Who has the power of the "Sticky"?
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Nick Innh
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Jan 23, 2022
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A conversion
· Joined May 2019
· Points: 0
Matthew Jaggerswrote:I just like like that this was posted in the FS/FF/WTB section! Who has the power of the "Sticky"? You do. It's called the "bumpie"
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HughC
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Jan 23, 2022
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Fort Collins, CO
· Joined Jul 2015
· Points: 60
Amen, my brother! You got a witness right here! My thought has often been, "If you can't use the gear, guide, etc., fine. Why not pass it along to someone who can for a fair and reasonable price?" Got a wonderful guidebook or that sweet pink, tricam? Sure is doing a lot of fucking good sitting on a shelf instead of in the hands of some young climbers with some stoke.
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