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Perch Conditions and Recommended Windows

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Samuel Parker · · Stockton, CA · Joined Apr 2019 · Points: 15

Hey y'all my partner and I are hoping to do the mountaineer's route on the porch in the future and I was hoping to get some advice for how to have the best experience up there. 

Been hunting around on the perch page here on the proj but couldn't find any info on the beginning of end of the best season to head up on the wall. If anyone has a solid window (earliest month - latest month) of when you can still send that'd be awesome! 

Also, as this is my first alpine excursion - what are some things you'd recommend we keep in mind while prepping or heading up on the wall? Have a solid amount of single pitch and shorter multi-pitch experience, but want to make sure I have all my bases covered for any alpine scenarios that could come up.

Deven Lewis · · Idaho falls · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 295

I think the mountaineers route is a good 1st experience for you. I’d set it as a two day trip your first go around. Late August on a week day is a good time to go as the mosquitos die down quite a bit and you don’t contend with any snow and the creek crossing are tame. Don’t over pack try to fit everything you need into a 40l bag. Use your first day to to scout out the start of the climb and map the desent gully you’ll take after you finish the climb. and wake up a little early and charge through the next day
Also use this topo it’ll help you a lot. sites.google.com/stephabegg…


Actually read her whole site (she has topos for the Tetons as well) it’ll make you a better climber I know it helped me a lot at getting more efficient and better at route finding for when I’m on less popular routes as well.

if you’re consistently and confidently climbing 5.9 at the city you’ll do fine on the route try climbing over on the Great Wall it’ll be great practice for you and fairly similar of what you’ll get into on the mountaineers route. Just way shorter. I can send you a topo if you’d like. Bracksiek's pillar is also a great place to have fun and work on your rope management,(That is what eats up time when your doing longer climbs) and have fun peak bagging not so technical climbs too it’ll get you in good shape and use to walking on talus.

Best luck Sam. Hope to climb with you when I’m back home.

Samuel Parker · · Stockton, CA · Joined Apr 2019 · Points: 15
Deven Lewiswrote:

I think the mountaineers route is a good 1st experience for you. I’d set it as a two day trip your first go around. Late August on a week day is a good time to go as the mosquitos die down quite a bit and you don’t contend with any snow and the creek crossing are tame. Don’t over pack try to fit everything you need into a 40l bag. Use your first day to to scout out the start of the climb and map the desent gully you’ll take after you finish the climb. and wake up a little early and charge through the next day
Also use this topo it’ll help you a lot. sites.google.com/stephabegg…


Actually read her whole site (she has topos for the Tetons as well) it’ll make you a better climber I know it helped me a lot at getting more efficient and better at route finding for when I’m on less popular routes as well.

if you’re consistently and confidently climbing 5.9 at the city you’ll do fine on the route try climbing over on the Great Wall it’ll be great practice for you and fairly similar of what you’ll get into on the mountaineers route. Just way shorter. I can send you a topo if you’d like. Bracksiek's pillar is also a great place to have fun and work on your rope management,(That is what eats up time when your doing longer climbs) and have fun peak bagging not so technical climbs too it’ll get you in good shape and use to walking on talus.

Best luck Sam. Hope to climb with you when I’m back home.

Thanks for the info! I'll go through that whole site and get informed. 

When you're talking about packing - do you mean overnight supplies and climbing rack all in a 40L? Or everything needed to send the wall should fit into a 40L between the two of us?

I'll need to head back down and do Bracksieck's! I never managed to get out on that guy while working in the City. 5.9s are definitely all in the onsight range, so that's good to know regarding ability.

For now, I'm back up at BYUI going to school in Rexburg. Let me know if you ever are looking for a partner, I'm always down to get more laps in on gear. :) Do there happen to be any good trad crags closer to Rexburg or IF besides Midget Widget?

Deven Lewis · · Idaho falls · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 295
Samuel Parkerwrote:

Thanks for the info! I'll go through that whole site and get informed. 

When you're talking about packing - do you mean overnight supplies and climbing rack all in a 40L? Or everything needed to send the wall should fit into a 40L between the two of us?

I'll need to head back down and do Bracksieck's! I never managed to get out on that guy while working in the City. 5.9s are definitely all in the onsight range, so that's good to know regarding ability.

For now, I'm back up at BYUI going to school in Rexburg. Let me know if you ever are looking for a partner, I'm always down to get more laps in on gear. :) Do there happen to be any good trad crags closer to Rexburg or IF besides Midget Widget?

Try fitting your camping and climbing gear into your 40l pack. You both have 40l packs and share the weight of climbing gear. I also share 1 stove between us.


this is a good video to follow you won’t need a few things of the things on here but you will when you start doing winter and spring climbs. And don’t worry about packing the exact food or gearhe has.
midget widget is one of my favorite but it short and limited. Really you can practice alot of crack climbing at teddy bear and mortal earth I’d bring gear with you when you go teddy bear and clip the bolts and place gear between if you can. Bully pulpit is a good one to work on hand cracks and holey roller has some good finger crack section. There are many more to practice. 

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