Favorite discontinued gear

Arc'teryx Alpha/Procline Comp jackets. I really liked the hybrid construction. I currently own something similar by Swedish brand Lundhags but it's a bit baggy for summer alpine due to it being cut for thick layering. 

If you can find the older version of the salewa G2 HMS in the US with the round bar stock (still lots of stock in Europe) it could actually be a good replacement for the petzl attache. I ordered one on amazon but the cunts sent the wrong biner.

The old Scottish wool balaclava

I love that this thread turned into a F/S/T thread for discontinued gear. My list is similar to others. C3’s, everything Five Ten especially the Pinks, Bd Oz, round-stock Attache, etc. 

Metolius Element is also a great round stock biner. 

5.10 zlipper

Weird but I like it.

that guy named sebwrote:

If you can find the older version of the salewa G2 HMS in the US with the round bar stock (still lots of stock in Europe) it could actually be a good replacement for the petzl attache. I ordered one on amazon but the cunts sent the wrong biner.

I don't know the old Petzl carabiners but these Salewa biners are by far the best ones I own.

What makes the old Attache so great? And is it the same as the old William just lighter?

Bryce Dahlgrenwrote:

What makes the old Attache so great? And is it the same as the old William just lighter?

The old Attaches are a full round stock with a nice screw gate. A nice size for smooth belaying on a tube style device or with a munter. They’re big enough for easy handling but not so big they’re unwieldy or too heavy. The new one just doesn’t cut it. Silly I-beam construction is both not as smooth when feeding rope and not as durable, and the screw gate is much more prone to freezing shut even in normal use. The William is a large D locker, vs the pear shaped Attaché.

Other options on the market are good, but not quite as good IMO. The Metolius HMS carabiner is a bit smaller (I think too small) and is disparagingly nicknamed the “Infinity Gate.” The CAMP Nimbus is close but I find it doesn’t sit quite as well when belaying a second off a guide-mode ATC (same with the Edelrid HMS carabiner). The Sterling Falcon is also close but a bit bigger and I don’t like the screw gate action quite as much. All the BD options are kinda crappy. Basically it’s hard to find a full round-stock HMS carabiner these days, leading to a thriving demand for the old Attachés. 

Bryce Dahlgrenwrote:

What makes the old Attache so great? And is it the same as the old William just lighter?

It's all the reasons stated above, but also the perfect symmetry (metolius element is slightly asymmetrical) and relatively flat top of the biner it's a true pear, this is nicer when using double ropes. The new atache is a great biner and really hard to beat size to weight ratio but it's not where the old one was in smoothness or durability. The William puzzles me, the old 25kn dmm boa weighed the same and is bigger so idk why anyone would go for the William. 

that guy named sebwrote:

If you can find the older version of the salewa G2 HMS in the US with the round bar stock (still lots of stock in Europe) it could actually be a good replacement for the petzl attache. I ordered one on amazon but the cunts sent the wrong biner.

Can we please be better than using derogatory female language to express displeasure? I understand frustration but as men, we can and must do better. 

I like this thread let’s get back on topic

Scarpa Instinct Lace

Everyone raves about the Boostics for comfy stiff edging, the original red instincts are better. Shamefully only bought one pair when they were on Pro Sale for $70

Five Ten Anasazi Blanco

Stylish, High performing, you could pretend you were Sonnie Trotter, or not tie the laces and be Steve McClure. Also not sure why Unparallel hasn’t made a replica yet. 

Five Ten Super Mocc

Why doesn’t anyone make a rand like this for thin cracks?

Sportiva Barracuda
maybe La Sportivas best crack climbing shoe they ever made.

Miura XX

Why do they keep making hideous Mythos anniversary editions instead of  bringing this one back?

Patagonia actually making soft shells like the ascensionist and fleece lined speed ascent. Breathable puffies perform better for a lot of activities, but having them degrade from pack straps means they are not a long lasting jacket. 

Original Thumb Loop Master Cams

C3s

Silent Partner

HB dyneema helmet

Lightweight carbon fiber helmet that could take 10 hits in the UIAA test. There’s lighter hard shell helmets these days but I’m not sure they are as durable

Jon Rhoderickwrote:

I like this thread let’s get back on topic

Scarpa Instinct Lace

Did they discontinue them, or is there just something you like about the old version more? 

Bill Schickwrote:

These are now produced by DMM - exact duplicates.

Nope. The wires on IMPs are slightly more spaced apart where they enter the head. They are also slightly stiffer. On a tiny wire, that's more potential twist. Roland Pauligk's craftsmanship was really something. 

Cypher Sentinels just fit my feet so well...

And don’t mean to derail again, but for those who like the Salewa, I think the Kong Napik HMS is also a good replacement.

Grigri 1 remains the best belaying option for single pitch sport climbing IMO in terms of durability and ease of use. It may have issues with new skinny ropes but since most of the routes around Boulder besides at Seal Rock are 40' long, climbing with a 9.5 or  up is no problem haha. No plans to buy the newer versions.

And yeah 5.10's new lineup does not spark joy.

bearded samwrote:

Can we please be better than using derogatory female language to express displeasure? I understand frustration but as men, we can and must do better. 

Not defending the use, but it's a cultural thing, man. All my buddies from the UK and Australia use that word so often it seems as commonplace as saying an American saying "prick" or "asshole."  I feel like it comes across much harsher here in the states. 

Chouinard/Patagonia Stand Up Shorts, Rugby shirts, Sailor shirt

Boreal Aces

Chouinard Yosemite Hammer

A5 Crag Pack