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Gold Wall in Sonora - Reopened
Colonel Mustardwrote: Charging to enter private property opens up liability for the property owner. The whole reason we were allowed to climb there was because the AF calmed the property owners fears of liability. |
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^^^ This information is accurate (lots here hasn't been). |
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$5 donation then? Dunno, I guess fears weren’t calmed and many climbers couldn’t look past their own wants. The place has been a zoo since forever, I can only imagine it got worse with gym shutdowns, I’m not surprised it finally wore on the landowner’s nerves. Lest I sound too cantankerous, it is a big loss to the community, it is a very fine area and a large part of the community has benefitted from the efforts of those few developers and advocates. I wish a better solution could be reached. |
Nathan Kellywrote: Still closed as far as I know. And it sounds like parking and access issues in the area are getting more attention: https://www.uniondemocrat.com/news/article_e59cabdc-9716-11eb-adb8-d3e332e8f7d8.html I hope we can work something out to preserve access not only to Gold Wall but all the other climbing up there. |
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In response to the question above about whether the Gold Wall is still closed, it still is. Please continue to refrain from climbing there. We have had great compliance from the climbing community, which helps in ongoing conversations with other parties. The Access Fund has been hard at work on this issue, having meetings with the landowner, county elected officials, federal officials, non-profits, and others. We will broadcast any future change in status widely, including here on Mountain Project. |
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We have some great news regarding Gold Wall! As of April 16, 2021 Access Fund has arranged an agreement with the land owners to allow climbing at the Gold Wall. Some details to note however, the agreement with the owner is a non-binding document that is up for review and renewal on an annual basis. Rules for climbing at Gold Wall: -No yelling/loud noises -No fires of any kind -No camping -No trash/bathroom -No publishing routes in books or online (this means please don't post topos, details on MP or other websites/forums) -No disclosing exact location in books/online The land owners continue to have full rights over the Gold Wall and the right to close access at any time if activities occur that make them uncomfortable. We are very thankful to the land owners who recognize the importance of Gold Wall to the climbing community and generously have allowed rock climbing to occur on their property. We will continue to partner with the landowners to support and explore additional long term options for the Gold Wall. Access Fund is also working with Tuolumne County, Tuolumne County Land Trust, private landowners and the US Bureau of Reclamation to come up with a solution to the Shell Rd parking issue. Please be mindful of where you park when going to Table Mountain, do not block private driveways or vehicle access on Shell Rd and remember this area is a high fire danger zone so use abundance of caution! Thank you for your ongoing stewardship of the Gold Wall. It is up to us as a climbing community to ensure the owner’s rules are upheld so please if you see something say something!! |
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Thank you, Katie and the Access Fund team!! |
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That is great news! I hope the rules will be respected and the Gold Wall can stay open well into the future. Thanks to the land owner for sharing their property with us, that's very kind of them. And thanks to AF for working so quickly to reach an agreement, one which allows us to continue to enjoy this amazing wall. |
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Great news! Thanks Access Fund, BLR and property owners. Lets slow down on the rural roads, carpool and limit group sizes. |
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No yelling? LOL good bye Gold Wall. |
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Yah, the same on rc.com tons of info there about the gw. that info has been there for years. |
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We are guests on this property (indeed everywhere we climb). This is an opportunity for education, responsible behavior and gratitude. Sarcasm and cynicism do not further our aims. Administrators of sites like this are in a position to lead by example. |
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The irony is that this place is not a secret, and if it was on mountain project it would be much easier to explain the rules and access situation. There are plenty of climbers that use this site only for the route database. The forums are a poor place to communicate access issues |
Cory Bwrote: You know, that makes absolute sense. Calling it “a secret” has been a long-standing joke. One other concern I see from the rules is keeping down noise. Safe climbing communication sometimes requires something beyond a conversational tone when you are 30m apart. Granted, there is needless yelling and trying to communicate above the din of GW crowds. Maybe communicate as much in advance as possible? I hope things remain open and folks take some more consideration for the sake of everybody’s continued access. |
Katie Goodwinwrote: Katie, any thoughts on putting another sign or upgrading the sign on the way to gold wall? Maybe making the sign larger or adding an other could help people notice it and respect the rules? |
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Wcayler, there are two signs currently on the approach to the Gold Wall spelling out the above requirements. One was installed maybe 5 years ago, and a second simpler one several months ago. The owner has requested other additional signage, at the junction with the Table Mountain hiking trail, to steer hikers away from the Gold Wall approach. We will be installing those at his request shortly. And regarding noise, the climber and belayer can see each other at this cliff. With some planning in advance, we can avoid yelling. If we want to be able to climb here, we are going to have to. Making sure your peers understand how tenuous our climbing here is, and how important it is to comply with the owner's requests, is critical. |
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Tom, I’ve seen the sign just as you get to the talus. I haven’t the new one that has been installed recently, I haven’t been to gold wall in about two months. My thinking is that with sensitive access more signage is probably better. Maybe one at the crag as you walk up? Just a thought. I laughed at the QR code a first then thought more about it. People are pretty lazy these days |
Seamus Amos wrote: Locals only brajerson |
Seamus Amos wrote: This makes me want to talk about the wall |
