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Drinking (I said I’d write something)
Nick Goldsmithwrote: I'm high on life too! |
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Well, 32 days as of today and I’m happy to say that I’m barely thinking about it. We went into La Paz to stock up on groceries and I absolutely would have bought two bottles of tequila, a bottle of Mezcal and a case of beer! I saved myself $150 by not drinking! Here‘s a cute story in that regard. My daughter was about 7 years old and was with me in the liquor store when I bought a $55 bottle of Scotch. In the car she asked me what I was going to do with it. I said that I was going to drink it. “You’re going to drink it it, Daddy!” she said in disbelieve. I actually felt a little bit stupid right then. |
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Dang you built up quite a tolerance! My kid pointed to my Rossignol skis one day and said, "Ha chickens." Later she points to my big can of beer and says, "Ha kangaroo." |
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81 days for me today |
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How about a shout out to all those weed addicts out there? Me sober for 10 years now. |
Climber 4QualityCommunitywrote: Stay off my pot mayne, its a plant not a drug. |
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jimson weed is a plant |
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From my recent talks with men around retirement age, ego preservation can become a renewed challenge as roles change and another life chapter begins. Not to say this is a struggle for you, Mark, but it’s interesting stuff nonetheless. |
M Montoya wrote: Lmao |
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I heard on you tube. That is funny. |
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I would much rather see someone smoke weed than tobacco. Much easier to quit smokeing weed than tobacco and the health detriments of tobacco are off the charts. Weed can bee used legitimately for pain and insomnia but like any medicine it can also be abused. no way weed comes even remotely close to the physical damage of alcohol. 4 dudes get drunk they start a fight. Same 4 dudes smoke an ounce of weed they start a band. |
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I don't believe that a booze habbit is caused by other problems. The booze habbit certainly causes other problems but you don't need problems to be a drunk. Wiggy and beer tastes really, really good and its addictive. super easy to get a problem. Then when you get all wound up and start performing you do things that cause problems and booze messes with your health and your sleep and that causes problems. Get rid of the booze and over time most of those problems can go away... Self medicating with booze to try and fix problems that are caused by booze is a dead end.. |
Nick Goldsmithwrote: Sometimes. Sometimes not. Sometimes both. Don't forget trauma and depression, bipolar, etc are sometimes part of the mix. So is true physical addiction. A great many people are somewhere in between. A habit, that may or may not be a problem. Until one day, perhaps, it is. In my case, I'm the rare one who never really drank much in the first place and simply lost interest. I eventually also realized, that with depression, anything that lets me lose control, is flat out hazardous. So, no booze, no drugs. Friends who have quit usually came to a point where it was chronic drinking, and not worth the cost. I also know plenty of people who can't go without....but are high functioning. Or, largely go without, but go straight to very very drunk asap with the first drink. Both are hard to live with. A classmate of mine in 5th grade fell asleep in class quite often. It turns out, his dad expected him to stay up drinking with him him. Or he'd get beat up. Other issues were at play, and sadly, this isn't uncommon. Well hidden, sure, but kids drinking isn't at all unusual. My husband started at 12. Family dynamics, abuse, codependency, PTSD, a lot can be a factor. Yes, getting the booze out of the picture solves a lot of problems. But not all. It also takes a long time to retrain your brain to the new reality. I'm still working on that myself, and 2020 wasn't very helpful. But, optimism, happiness, and contentment are more the default these days, yay, instead of feeling that all happiness will be punished, and an underlying dread of....well, being alive at all, is largely gone. And, I also have sober friends who walked away from alcohol simply because it was the easiest way to get weight and health issues managed. Traded up, for habits that were more rewarding. Like climbing. Best, Helen |
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Used to smoke over a gram per day, quit October 2. Used edibles and some vaping and fell off the wagon a few times, but I'm using much less and enjoying it more. Besides, I have legitimate pain issues (thats my story and I'm sticking to it) and if weed helps me use less opioids,.. Didn't drink until I was 54, and have cut back there too. But I like that bit in The Godfather where Michael urges Vito to have a glass of wine in the afternoon saying, "Its good for you Pop." Moderation is key. |
Ron Owrote: Moderation is fine, as long as you don't do too much of it. |
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I get all that stuff Helen. I started drinking daily at 14 yrs old. I will stand strong on my statement that depression, bi polar etc. Do not cause alcoholism. Separate issues. Alcoholism causes alcoholism. Alcoholism certainly can cause depression and make any other mental health problems worse. Becoming a drunk is as simple as succumbing to peer pressure and trying the stuff enough times to acquire a taste. Alcohol is physically and mentally addictive. Drink enough of it and you get hooked. It tastes good and makes you feel good until its dosent. but then all you have to do to start feeling better again is drink a little bit. presto you feel better so you drink some more... vicious cycle.. |
Nick Goldsmithwrote: So you're saying depression cannot cause alcoholism, but alcoholism can cause depression? Surely it is a two-way street. |
Climber 4QualityCommunitywrote: Don't bother, man. For some one off life experiences are more important than facts and research |
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He has a point if you have ever tried to talk a depressed alcoholic about why they are so depressed... the shit goes round and round. |
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I got facts and resurch. Worked in bars for 23 years. Think just maybe I have studied a shit ton of depressed alcoholics up close and personal in the wee hours of the morning while the sun is coming up. Heck I probably have more hours in the chair/stool than most practicing therapists. We did group therapy, one on one and all by the lonesome self therapy. We never did cure a single patient by pouring wiggy down their pie hole. . Blaming your alcoholism on depression is just a lame assed poor me crutch that does not work and is completely counter productive. Your an alcoholic because you drink alcohol. KISS. If you were not depressed you would still be an alcoholic because you damn well like the way that whisky tastes soooo smooth on the way down and puts that fire in your belly. If you Really want to get your shit together step# 1 is Stop Drinking That Shit. This will only happen when you actually Want to Stop Drinking That Shit. NO amount of court orders or spousal pressure will ever cure someone from Drinking That Shit unless they come to the point of actually Wanting to Stop Drinking That Shit. . Once you get to where you actually Want to Stop Drinking That Shit you have a chance. Certainly therapy would be helpful while you are in the process of Stop drinking that Shit but the bottom line is that God helps those who help themselves and the best way to help yourself is to Stop Drinking That Shit. |
