Yosemite raps

Connor Dobsonwrote:

If you tie knots and use a backup or an ABD, rapping isn't dangerous. It's experienced complacent climbers who fuck it up and rap off ropes or build shit rap anchors. 

Rappelling itself is not dangerous if done thoughtfully. 

Hey Conner, the reason I asked about her experience, is that as a caver or canyoneering person, even with no climbing experience, you'd be likely to be comfortable with 3rd or 4th class scrambles as an approach, know how to approach the edge of a drop-off to get to your rap, be aware of dangers of loose rock, know how to drop into a rap point below you from anchors on an edge, stuff like that.  There are actually a number of routes in the Valley that fit that description.  Somebody above mentioned the Van Leuven et. al.  book, which lists a bunch of them.  For example, with that kind of experience you might have a nice day at a place like Little Wing, which has a lovely hike to get to it and great views.  And you be less likely to be met with hostility for rappelling a climbing route than you might be at an easy to access and popular crag like Five and Dime.

As to rapping not being dangerous, I agree with what you said -  if you do everything right - but as far as doing things right, inexperience plays a big role too, as demonstrated by the data.  Also, rappelling is subject to the same objective dangers of rock fall and rock failure that climbing is, so you can do everything right and still be in the wrong place at the wrong time.  

How has no one made a Yosemite themed Rap Song?

Alexey Zelditchwrote:

why do you think she will enjoy silly or even dangerous  rappels?  Better take her out for dinner in Ahwannee hotel after hike

NO! Then you'll be stuck for life with someone who's hopelessly afraid of heights and wants to spend the week-end and splurge all the gear/holiday money on fancy food.

You're much better weeding out the hopeless relationships with a few daring free-hanging raps. If she survives that, there's hope.

In programming, we always say you're better off finding a bug earlier rather than later. Same applies here!

Franck Veewrote:

You're much better weeding out the hopeless relationships with a few daring free-hanging raps. If she survives that, there's hope.

That's why it's even better to climb. A climb over 5.7 is sure to weed out the fat men/women too.