Double axle cam vs single axe cam

Al Pinewrote:

Rigid stem friends are actually lighter than equivalent BD etc. Agreed that they are outstanding in shallow horizontals with a tie off.

Doesn't look too shallow.

rocknice2wrote:

Doesn't look too shallow.

Love it :) But point being it would be equally bomber if it was shallower, right? I have whipped on some rigid placements where the crack was barely deep enough to accommodate the full lobes of the cam, and it was completely truck. Confidence inspiring. 

I don't think so!

I'm curious -does anyone protect that sort of Gunks horizontal with cammed hexes or cammed DMM wallnuts?

rocknice2wrote:

I don't think so!

Well obviously we all want sunk placement, but you would be surprised. The short lever action of the tie off and the single axle make even shallow placements surprisingly secure. Much more so than a double axle flexible Camalot in a similar placement. Sink ‘em where you can, but where you can’t, have hope! 

John Pitcairnwrote:

I'm curious -does anyone protect that sort of Gunks horizontal with cammed hexes or cammed DMM wallnuts?

I used to carry hexes like that at the Gunks but I got sick of all the "More Cowbell" yells while walking down the carriage road.