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Mark Pilate · · MN · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 25

This dude’s lost all credibility with me.   Climbing with a pack at a single pitch crag.

but seriously, sounds like the answer to “why all the draws?”  could be as simple as “Cuz that’s what he got for Christmas”  
Don’t think a lot of thought has gone into this system.  A harness and a pack of draws was in his stocking.  Let’s go climb!   Wager a tidy sum this guy plots out along several spectrums.

Edit : and perhaps even more seriously, if this guy is a danger to others and himself, as seems evident, authorities may need to be called to intervene.  This goes beyond “check out the Gumby soloist over there”.   Can’t tell definitively from the pic, but is his harness waist belt upside down?  He may not be clinically competent to understand what he’s doing.

Adam W · · TX/Nevada · Joined Dec 2019 · Points: 532

Glad to see this beyond the Austin FB group this guys method is so dumb it deserves a larger audience.

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
Christopher Smalingwrote: There was a guy like this soloing in the eastern Sierra with gloves and a 60 ft piece of webbing that he would haul a backpack on.  There’s tons of YouTube videos of him being sketchy on 5.5 terrain.  He took a 50 footer and shattered his leg, but get this: he’s back at it.

Simkin! After getting roasted hard he finally decided to learn how to use ropes and stuff!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwEQ71g7qa0KWvOVkVQF4rw?app=desktop
Jesse Martin · · Charlotte, NC · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 21
Mark Pilatewrote:Can’t tell definitively from the pic, but is his harness waist belt upside down?  He may not be clinically competent to understand what he’s doing.

Didn't notice until you said it, but it does look like the gear loops are on top so I think you may be correct.

Nick Votto · · CO, CT, IT · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 320
M Mobleywrote:

Simkin! After getting roasted hard he finally decided to learn how to use ropes and stuff!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwEQ71g7qa0KWvOVkVQF4rw?app=desktop

Never has the term "yer gonna die" rang so true on this site......gloves, mountain boots, no pro, hauling a pack with no anchor, sierra granite....what could go wrong? 

Cherokee Nunes · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2015 · Points: 0

Outliers are like a physical property of the universe. But when us bell curve folk encounter them we feel we're looking at a different species or something. Nope, we're just seeing the outliers. You can't prevent them. Who cares anyway. Rain of rocks, sure sounds dramatic. Fight him!

Blue Collar Climbing · · Gear Protected Lowball · Joined Jan 2020 · Points: 0

The next evolution in good style.

David K · · The Road, Sometimes Chattan… · Joined Jan 2017 · Points: 434
Tim Stichwrote: Attempts so far to talk reason into him or showing him the Gri Gri self-belay rope leading method have failed.

So what would you do in this situation? He also tends to rain rocks down on the crag when "walking off" cliffs meant to be rappelled or lowered from.

It sounds like the only problem is the rock rain. If he lacks basic self-preservation instinct, that's his problem, not yours.

What I would do is the next time he rains rocks down, call the relevant authorities (rangers or landowners--I'm not sure what the situation is there but I am sure guns aren't necessary) and they can escort him off the property for causing a hazard, with instructions that further intrusions will be considered trespassing.

Adam W · · TX/Nevada · Joined Dec 2019 · Points: 532

^the Greenbelt is basically a city park/trail system there aren't really any rangers, etc regulating anything climbing wise

David K · · The Road, Sometimes Chattan… · Joined Jan 2017 · Points: 434

Hm, in that case, I'd be hesitant to pull in anyone more authoritative than that, because there's always a good chance they just close down climbing.

Maybe the best bet is just to avoid the guy.

Albert B · · Mammoth Lakes · Joined Apr 2018 · Points: 42

“Man dies while rock climbing,  experts say he was an idiot”

Some guy with a suit - “Hey let’s ban climbing”

I know Texas is different; This isn’t as simple as just letting him kill himself. He turns out to have a family with thousands in extra cash lying around to go on a campaign... Maybe he’ll land in some bushes. 

Blue Collar Climbing · · Gear Protected Lowball · Joined Jan 2020 · Points: 0

On the plus side, this guy may solve some of the perennial Mtn Proj debates about the dangers of short static falls.

What will break? A biner? His spine? Both?

Chuck Parks · · Atlanta, GA · Joined Jan 2008 · Points: 2,190
Franco McClimber · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 0

what a hero.  

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
HUGE Tradifan wrote: Are you sport climbers too weak to defend your crag from this beanpole?

Texas used to mean something, now its synonymous with Karens.

Billcoe · · Pacific Northwet · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 936
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lethal weapon II · · Pangea · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 52
spaceman laflare wrotcan you think of a worse system than this?

This seems like an interesting challenge..

The first thing that comes to mind is a full chain of carabiners without dog bones. 

Blue Collar Climbing · · Gear Protected Lowball · Joined Jan 2020 · Points: 0
spaceman laflare wrote: yea if talking to this dude doesn't work then grab your shit and get far away.
he'll either be scared straight by someone who's had enough of his recklessness or gravity will bite. 

can you think of a worse system than this?

All accessory/keychain biners?

Tim Stich · · Colorado Springs, Colorado · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,516
Billcoewrote: Are you saying that he is the only one knocking rocks off of the top outs? Cause I've been climbing a while and that would seem to me that you and all the other climbers have simply left a bunch of loose rock on the edge of the local climbs. Don't come crying to me if you take one accidentally, especially since you all know they are loose.

Most climbing areas are eroding to the point where they have slopes of loose scree over the years balanced just so at the top edge of the cliffs. As long as no one ventures up there, they are fairly stable and rains bring down rocks during a storm. But if people scramble around on this loose scree, it can rain down a lot of shit unexpectedly. It's impossible to clean all of it off. I learned this back in 1996 trying to set up topropes in Austin's Greenbelt by hiking down from above. I got chewed out by an irate sporto and schooled by a nice lady who showed us the right way to do it. This guy apparently does not listen nor is interested in learning anything.

Incidentally, to the admin who has limited the number of posts I can make in my own thread, this is a reaction from my fans:

Ew why would they do that to you? Your contributions are so valuable. 
this is tragic... 
This is disgusting behavior on the part of MP....  

Klaw Klimbs · · Boulder, CO · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 25
Tim Stichwrote:

Most climbing areas are eroding to the point where they have slopes of loose scree over the years balanced just so at the top edge of the cliffs. As long as no one ventures up there, they are fairly stable and rains bring down rocks during a storm. But if people scramble around on this loose scree, it can rain down a lot of shit unexpectedly. It's impossible to clean all of it off. I learned this back in 1996 trying to set up topropes in Austin's Greenbelt by hiking down from above. I got chewed out by an irate sporto and schooled by a nice lady who showed us the right way to do it. This guy apparently does not listen nor is interested in learning anything.

Incidentally, to the admin who has limited the number of posts I can make in my own thread, this is a reaction from my fans:

Ew why would they do that to you? Your contributions are so valuable. 
this is tragic... 
This is disgusting behavior on the part of MP....  


Tim I live for your comments. You post valuable beta on route pages. This particular post does have an informative and safety-minded nature to it--Austin climbers will be safer if they see this guy and avoid him. And you do it all with a humoristic style that makes me chuckle. I've never seen you make inappropriate comments or bash individuals, so I fail to understand why your comments on this thread is being limited. Hope the mods see this and notice that people disagree with their policy to muzzle you. 

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