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Offsets/protection for Charlotte Dome?

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Duke Mccrory · · Oceanside, CA · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 0

Hey y’all I’m planning on climbing Charlotte Dome, South Face in a couple weeks and am looking for more beta on protection for the route. I have doubles from .3 - #4 BD, a few ball nuts, and a set of stoppers. Would anyone recommend offsets for this route or anything else? Also anyone climb this in July? Am I gonna be roasting in the sun or shade for most of the day? Thanks

Allen Sanderson · · On the road to perdition · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,100

Std. Rack is fine ... you will not roast but might get sun burn.

Duke Mccrory · · Oceanside, CA · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 0

Cool thanks

Ryan Huetter · · Mammoth Lakes, CA · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 395

A couple of tricams are quite useful for some of the pockets.
Leave camp with headlamps on, be flaking your rope as it gets light, and you'll be up 6-7 pitches before it starts getting warm and the breeze will be a godsend. It is in full sun all day. 

Duke Mccrory · · Oceanside, CA · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 0

Thanks for the tips guys. 

old5ten · · Sunny Slopes + Berkeley, CA · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 5,881
Duke Mccrorywrote: Hey y’all I’m planning on climbing Charlotte Dome, South Face in a couple weeks and am looking for more beta on protection for the route. I have doubles from .3 - #4 BD, a few ball nuts, and a set of stoppers. Would anyone recommend offsets for this route or anything else? Also anyone climb this in July? Am I gonna be roasting in the sun or shade for most of the day? Thanks

fwiw, offsets are worthwhile for a lot of areas/climbs in the sierra.  my 'standard rack' usually runs doubles to #2 and a single #3 and at least one set of that is offsets to .75 - with a single rack i'll usually forego regular cams in favor the offsets...

no shade on that route, but you can still fry AND freeze on the same day!

BryanOC · · All over · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 5

single rack is sufficient.  we also brought and used C3’s.  down to #0 (purple).  

DMM offset nuts were placed frequently.  bring 10-14 slings.  

Did not have any offset cams, as we were using mostly totem.  but i didn’t see a need for them.

lmk if you want/need descent beta.  

have fun!!!  

Paul Morrison · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 55

You can leave the #4s at home.

Cory B · · Fresno, CA · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 2,593

We brought double cams to #3. Happy to have doubles on some pitches. I didn't place a single nut. Totems were nice for the runout pitch. Agree you don't need a #4. YMMV.

Mike Womack · · Orcutt, CA · Joined Mar 2014 · Points: 2,015

lose the ball nuts.  I had a 1.5x rack up to #3 and then some tricams and small/med nuts and it was perfect.  There's lots of sun exposure so bring a buff or a bandana or whatever to cover up.  SUCH a good route prepare to be astounded! Enjoy!

Duke Mccrory · · Oceanside, CA · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 0

Thanks y'all! I'm pretty stoked on doing this and all the beta helps

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

Duke.... Start in the dark- find the correct start. 
Good luck. 

Mike Womack · · Orcutt, CA · Joined Mar 2014 · Points: 2,015

Descent is straight forward.  There is one section of maybe 50' where you can either downclimb or rap and if there's daylight, it's not hard to find the rap station. After that, it's just a simple hike down.  

Louie McConnell · · Sunnyvale, CA · Joined Oct 2018 · Points: 0

By the way-- is charlotte dome open right now? i remember a couple weeks ago the road into the parking lot was closed.

Duke Mccrory · · Oceanside, CA · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 0
Louie McConnellwrote: By the way-- is charlotte dome open right now? i remember a couple weeks ago the road into the parking lot was closed.

From the west or east?

BryanOC · · All over · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 5
Louie McConnellwrote: By the way-- is charlotte dome open right now? i remember a couple weeks ago the road into the parking lot was closed.

a few weeks ago the road was open from the onion valley side (east).

BryanOC · · All over · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 5
Jeremy R wrote: Bryan OC, is the descent tricky? The only route I've climbed on Charolette we rapped down, but from the top it looked like a pretty straight forward descent...is that not the case?

eyeball the descent from the ground.  make out the landmarks you gotta hit.  generally speaking, hit the summit, traverse some 4th class along the ridge, then follow the carins down until you hit the trees.  remember the silhouette of the mountain so you can get your bearings if you’re descending in the dark (which was our F-up).


if you finish in daylight, should be cake!

Duke Mccrory · · Oceanside, CA · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 0

Last question for Charlotte Dome. In the Super Topo at pitch 7-11 there is an option for "Secor's Way" a left facing corner instead of the standard route. Anyone know if this is a well protected crack system or should I stick with the main route?

Duke Mccrory · · Oceanside, CA · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 0

Just did Charlotte Dome over the weekend. I used both offsets a bit and the ball nuts often. But I'm sure I could've done without either. Thanks again for the beta

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