Little Si death

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Jesus, fuck. Someone ate it off the World wall ledge i'm guessing. RIP Isn't that like the 3rd or 4th person to fall off that ledge?

Tristan Bradford wrote: Jesus, fuck. Someone ate it off the World wall ledge i'm guessing. RIP Isn't that like the 3rd or 4th person to fall off that ledge?

It says in the article it was the British Aisles area.

Chase G wrote:

It says in the article it was the British Aisles area.

yeah but how well do the emts know the climbing areas?

Tragic. 

It was British Isles, not WWI. Our group got to the crag when the rescue was wrapping up - British Aisles area was still blocked off by EMTS. We were told it was likely a rapping accident... Tragic indeed.

I was about to go out there today and went to gold bar instead. Wonder if it was incorrectly setting up a top rope mixed with rappelling accident.

Very sad; condolences to all those impacted.

Given that location most likely either a TR setup accident or more than likely are rappelling/communication error.  

 May we all take an extra few seconds to double check our systems (both physical and communication) heading into the season and hopefully not have any more community tragedies. 

 May we all take an extra few seconds to double check our systems (both physical and communication) heading into the season and hopefully not have any more community tragedies. 

May we all? Yes, we may.

Will we all? That's a different question.

The answer to that question depends in some part (maybe in large part) on the way we interpret the misfortune that falls on other people.

Do we think "that individual must have been less experienced/less knowledgable/less aware/less[fill in the blank] than me"? Or do we assume that individual is no less anything than we are ourselves, and hence realize we are equally capable of being visited by that same misfortune?

Humility and empathy go hand in hand. So do callousness and hubris. Just a PSA before this devolves into the self-righteous sanctimony that MP accident discussions often do.

Condolences to the dearly departed, and his family and friends.

RIP to the fallen climber

Chris Kalman wrote:

May we all? Yes, we may.

Will we all? That's a different question.

The answer to that question depends in some part (maybe in large part) on the way we interpret the misfortune that falls on other people.

Do we think "that individual must have been less experienced/less knowledgable/less aware/less[fill in the blank] than me"? Or do we assume that individual is no less anything than we are ourselves, and hence realize we are equally capable of being visited by that same misfortune?

Humility and empathy go hand in hand. So do callousness and hubris. Just a PSA before this devolves into the self-righteous sanctimony that MP accident discussions often do.

Condolences to the dearly departed, and his family and friends.

Chris didn't intend to sound callous or off putting my intention was not to mock or infer anything with regards to experience.  Accidents can happen to anyone and everyone of of them is sad.  With that said I look at the avalanche accident reports with the idea not to judge the lost but to learn so that we can all grow and be more aware.  Will everyone now start; no of course not but we should all slow down.  

again apologies if I sounded callous it was not my intention. 

BrokenChairs — I cant speak for Chris, but I don’t think he was implying you said anything callous or was directing anything at you specifically.  I believe he was just playing off of and expanding upon, one of your statements.  

BrokenChairs 88 wrote:

Chris didn't intend to sound callous or off putting my intention was not to mock or infer anything with regards to experience.  Accidents can happen to anyone and everyone of of them is sad.  With that said I look at the avalanche accident reports with the idea not to judge the lost but to learn so that we can all grow and be more aware.  Will everyone now start; no of course not but we should all slow down.  

again apologies if I sounded callous it was not my intention. 

Broken Chairs: Not at all, man. You didn't come off that way in the slightest. What Mark Pilate said was exactly right, I was just leapfrogging off your comment.

Chris Kalman wrote:

Broken Chairs: Not at all, man. You didn't come off that way in the slightest. What Mark Pilate said was exactly right, I was just leapfrogging off your comment.

Cool thank you Chris.  

Lots of possible explanations.

Best to be respectful of the deceased and their family & friends.

Speculation is indicative of little more than morbid curiosity.

Wait for official/knowledgeable reports if you are eager to know more details for some reason.

(Edit: I don’t mean this as directed at previous posters. Apologies if interpretable in that way. Egregiously posted before getting up to speed with existing dialogue.)

Tragic. Condolences to the family/friends. Rest in Peace to the dearly departed.

Absolutely tragic — and at only 23 nonetheless,

My condolences to the climber’s family. I am really curious about what went wrong.