Pull ups vs grade climbed?

Isaac Steinbrunner wrote:

Care to make an actual wager?  I bet I can do one set of 10 proper and controlled pull-ups, by your definition, from the jugs of a hangboard, and post video proof, by 10pm Eastern on May 25, 2020.  I ask that if you have reasonable objections to the video/form/technique/etc, I be given 36 hours to post a second attempt to meet your specifications.  In the case of a dispute, we each post "Like this post if you think I won the bet" in this thread, and whoever gets more votes within 48 hours, wins.  Loser makes a donation to the charity of the winner's choice and posts a screenshot of the confirmation email to this thread.  I'd be comfortable staking any amount of your choice up to $1,000 (I'd be willing to bet more, but this format leaves open the possibility of cheating by, say, account spamming.  For my part, I promise to be honorable).  Let me know!

Do it live on Zoom.  Have a pull-up party.  BYOB

That sounds fun . Then we could have every armchair MP self proclaimed pull up expert tell him why he was doing them wrong.

Joe Trabucco wrote:

Bring it Minnesota.  Wouldn’t be the first time you lose to a Hawkeye ;) 

Joe, you misunderstood (unless you’re from clan MacTrabucco).   I was saying those nit-picky, argumentative Scotsmen that Michael Sershen was going on about,  needed a good whooping....

I will take the action from that guy who claims he can do 50-60, no thanks on the 10. 

reboot wrote:

I mean, what does he want to bet then? I need a Moonboard built in the garage...

perhaps it is a rhetorical bet, or perhaps a figurative bet.  i guess it's hard to run numbers when you aren't good with numbers...

slim wrote:

LOLZ, trabucco couldn't round up 10 bucks if his life depended on it, much less 1000.

Yeah, regardless of how much money anybody has, on reflection I apologize for immediately bringing large sums of money into the picture, it was uncalled for.  My only excuse is, I got excited because I found his posts annoying and I felt confident that I (and probably many others reading this thread) could prove him wrong.  Plus, he literally asked someone to shut him up!

So, Joe, here's a 2nd set of stakes, if it entices you to take the bet.  If you win, I will mail you a (used but good condition) #0.5 C4.  If I win, you mail me whatever small piece of gear you have lying around that is your least favorite.  Hopefully that keeps it fun, what do you say?

Isaac Steinbrunner wrote:

Yeah, regardless of how much money anybody has, on reflection I apologize for immediately bringing large sums of money into the picture, it was uncalled for.  My only excuse is, I got excited because I found his posts annoying and I felt confident that I (and probably many others reading this thread) could prove him wrong.  Plus, he literally asked someone to shut him up!

So, Joe, here's a 2nd set of stakes, if it entices you to take the bet.  If you win, I will mail you a (used but good condition) #0.5 C4.  If I win, you mail me whatever small piece of gear you have lying around that is your least favorite.  Hopefully that keeps it fun, what do you say?

I love all of my pieces.  I literally just want someone to shut me up.  I’m a simpleton. 

Joe Trabucco wrote:

I love all of my pieces.  I literally just want someone to shut me up.  I’m a simpleton. 

It's the internet. You're the only one that can truly shut yourself up.

Talk to tradiban about it.

Joe Trabucco wrote:

I love all of my pieces.  I literally just want someone to shut me up.  I’m a simpleton. 

Put your pro where your mouth is. Don’t back down now kid...

curt86iroc wrote:

Put your pro where your mouth is. Don’t back down now kid...

Lol BET none of y’all are worth a discontinued totem basic. BET

Joe Trabucco wrote:

Lol BET none of y’all are worth a discontinued totem basic. BET

Annoying, but not the typical kind of annoying we usually get from Boulder. Have you been there long?

Bill Czajkowski wrote:

Annoying, but not the typical kind of annoying we usually get from Boulder. Have you been there long?

Longer than you :)

Joe Trabucco wrote:

99.99% on here BS lolz. Bet 85% can't do 8 proper pull-ups (non kip strong concentric; 3-4 second slow eccentric; 1 second pause at the peak of the motion; full extension of the lats at the bottom of the movement). Shut me up someone.

Slow eccentric is not how to do pullups. Sure if you want to hang for a longer time do them slow. But hanging down for 3 seconds is not a pullup. It is a dead hang. So maybe you just hang in the lower position for however long you want to. And when you can't hold on any longer that is the amount of time you have to do your pullups. And if you pull up after hanging there and you are able to get some blood flowing and are able to do more pullups great. But hanging in the lower position is not a pullup. That is the bottom line. Whatever do them however you want. 

Joe Trabucco wrote:

I love all of my pieces.  I literally just want someone to shut me up.  I’m a simpleton. 

After all that talk about "99.9% on here BS lolz." I guess you were including yourself in that figure, since apparently your eagerness to make a bet was just bluster.  For what it's worth (a vanishingly small amount, I'm sure), I'm disappointed in you.

I've got nothing else to do so, for the public's entertainment, I upheld my end of the non-bargain anyway.  Critique away.
https://youtu.be/ra0Ou4WyrEw

(Apologies for the beeping, I thought it would help me make sure I was REALLY  lowering for 3 seconds, but honestly it was hard to sync up with and just ended up confusing me a little.  Maybe I'm not so good with numbers myself...)

This is my first time uploading to youtube so sorry if I messed it up, let me know if the link doesn't work

Isaac Steinbrunner wrote:

After all that talk about "99.9% on here BS lolz." I guess you were including yourself in that figure, since apparently your eagerness to make a bet was just bluster.  For what it's worth (a vanishingly small amount, I'm sure), I'm disappointed in you.

I've got nothing else to do so, for the public's entertainment, I upheld my end of the non-bargain anyway.  Critique away.
https://youtu.be/ra0Ou4WyrEw

(Apologies for the beeping, I thought it would help me make sure I was REALLY  lowering for 3 seconds, but honestly it was hard to sync up with and just ended up confusing me a little.  Maybe I'm not so good with numbers myself...)

This is my first time uploading to youtube so sorry if I messed it up, let me know if the link doesn't work

Nicely done... although I’m sure someone will come up some shittalk reason why that doesn’t qualify. 

Isaac Steinbrunner wrote:

After all that talk about "99.9% on here BS lolz." I guess you were including yourself in that figure, since apparently your eagerness to make a bet was just bluster.  For what it's worth (a vanishingly small amount, I'm sure), I'm disappointed in you.

I've got nothing else to do so, for the public's entertainment, I upheld my end of the non-bargain anyway.  Critique away.
https://youtu.be/ra0Ou4WyrEw

(Apologies for the beeping, I thought it would help me make sure I was REALLY  lowering for 3 seconds, but honestly it was hard to sync up with and just ended up confusing me a little.  Maybe I'm not so good with numbers myself...)

This is my first time uploading to youtube so sorry if I messed it up, let me know if the link doesn't work

Thanks buddy.  You win and I shut up on this thread.  Back to spraying and talking about unrealistic reps/set :). Peace!

I actually want to see video of the kid who can do 15 strict muscle ups, now that is impressive.

hifno wrote: I actually want to see video of the kid who can do 15 strict muscle ups, now that is impressive.I 

I think muscle ups to grade climbed could have a nice correlation.  

Eric Carlos wrote:

I think muscle ups to grade climbed could have a nice correlation.  

Possibly, except that I think there is quite a bit of technique involved in doing a muscle up that you don't necessarily need climbing. So that I imagine there are probably a lot of strong climbers who can't do one.

Sounds like the Lattice guys think that of the pull-up variations, it's the weighted one for max strength (low reps) that matters most. Although from what I can tell, I once you reach 2 reps at 150% bodyweight, they don't recommend emphasizing it much, so I'm guessing their data doesn't show a strong correlation beyond that.

hifno wrote: I actually want to see video of the kid who can do 15 strict muscle ups, now that is impressive.

The kid has given up on gymnastics already. But in the spirit of Isaac's effort, here yours truly one arm on a Beastmaker 2k:

https://youtu.be/dJbuCe02uN8

Yes, not all from Boulder only talk shit.