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F r i t z · · North Mitten · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 1,190

About to take the plunge. Are the red and orange Totems worth it compared to the #1 and #2 Camalots? Seems like the advantages are less advantageous in that big of a crack.

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 3,732

Scrotum Cams are what you need to rack for a 50 foot runout.

F r i t z · · North Mitten · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 1,190
Gunkiemike wrote: Scrotum Cams are what you need to rack for a 50 foot runout.

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Garry Reiss · · Guelph, ON · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 6

Around here, 9 out of 10 gear failures I know of were cams so I want whatever has the best chance of holding, and right now, that's the Scrotums.

Zachary Winters · · Winthrop, WA · Joined Aug 2014 · Points: 430

If you're concerned about weird placements and wishing you had a hand sized offset (do these even exist?) then totems will up your odds. For that price you can probably get UL C4s which will be less bulk and weight. I do like the up through green though!

DWF 3 · · Boulder, CO · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 186
F r i t z wrote: About to take the plunge. Are the red and orange Totems worth it compared to the #1 and #2 Camalots? Seems like the advantages are less advantageous in that big of a crack.

Red tote is a great size.  Orange is great but floppy so not worth it in my opinion. 

chris b · · woodinville, wa · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 11

red yes. i have orange totem and gold c4. if i'm bring a single rack, i bring the gold c4. if you already have #2 c4 then yes orange totem. they balance really well.

Matthew Jaggers · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 695
chris blatchley wrote: red yes. i have orange totem and gold c4. if i'm bring a single rack, i bring the gold c4. if you already have #2 c4 then yes orange totem. they balance really well.

I like the orange and red as much as any cam I own. Anyone looking to sell their orange, I'll buy it off of you. The orange is the most bomber cam ever made.

Al Pine · · Shawangadang, NY · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 0

Red is great, but the orange really shines when you compare against the width of a BD 2. It’s a lot narrower. Totems are great in flaring cracks too.

Michael Atlas · · Charlotte, NC · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 85

Love my orange and red totem.  The headwidth difference is significantly smaller than BD UL's.  As noted above, the flare makes a difference as well.  

acrophobe · · Orange, CT · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 0

As I have pointed out in other threads, the Orange Totem is only floppy before it is retracted.  Once you pull the trigger, it is perfectly stable.  Not sure why this misinformation persists.

If you want a #2 C4 size with better holding power, that works in greater flares, and if necessary, can hold on two lobes in a funky placement, buy an Orange Totem.  The only advantages of the C4 is that it is cheaper and works in a passive, fully open placement.

Michael Atlas · · Charlotte, NC · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 85
acrophobe wrote: As I have pointed out in other threads, the Orange Totem is only floppy before it is retracted.  Once you pull the trigger, it is perfectly stable.  Not sure why this misinformation persists.

If you want a #2 C4 size with better holding power, that works in greater flares, and if necessary, can hold on two lobes in a funky placement, buy an Orange Totem.  The only advantages of the C4 is that it is cheaper and works in a passive, fully open placement.

^^^^^^This

Colonel Mustard · · Sacramento, CA · Joined Sep 2005 · Points: 1,257

Amateurs! You only need to buy the black totem to use as a wand to bless your rack. 

F r i t z · · North Mitten · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 1,190

Trigger pulled.

$67 shipped at http://mammothgear.com/Totem-Cam-4052599.65-264967/

No orange, but they have the black in stock right now!
Andrew Rice · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 11

I love the big Totems. I've definitely seen the Orange stick in places where a Yellow C4 would not. 

Wes Martin · · Golden, CO · Joined Dec 2015 · Points: 15

Thanks for the link Fritz, I've been waiting to get a black and blue for a while and just ordered! Stoked for the Scrotemz!

Lisa Rosenthal · · Truckee · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 1

Oh dang, I was just going to try to sell you @Fritz the red totem me and my bf have on our rack. If anyone else is interested in buying a fairly unused red totem, we've got one to sell. It's a bit too floppy for our liking and the BD #1 is a lot easier to shove in without too much effort. 

Matthew Jaggers · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 695
Lisa R wrote: Oh dang, I was just going to try to sell you @Fritz the red totem me and my bf have on our rack. If anyone else is interested in buying a fairly unused red totem, we've got one to sell. It's a bit too floppy for our liking and the BD #1 is a lot easier to shove in without too much effort. 

Depending on the price after shipping, I may be interested. Send me a pm

Christian Hesch · · Arroyo Grande, CA · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 55
acrophobe wrote: As I have pointed out in other threads, the Orange Totem is only floppy before it is retracted.  Once you pull the trigger, it is perfectly stable.  Not sure why this misinformation persists.

as several have pointed out on this thread:

-Flop is a myth. Grab one and see for yourself.
-Narrow head width
-Nice complement to a UL C4 #2
-Will not walk. A #2 will walk much more often.
-Caught me nicely when I somehow slipped out of a slot on CPoF- nary a mark on it from a 25ft'er.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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