Topics that climbers are sure to agree on

Although infighting is fun, I thought it would also be fun to come up with a list of things that are not debated among climbers.  Here’s what I have so far:

- Anything 5.9+ is the hardest route at the crag
- Falling is scary
- Gear is awesome
- A good climbing partner is more valuable than any piece of gear
- Yosemite is incredible
- The Gunks are incredible
​- Big rocks anywhere are incredible
- People who develop routes with good ethics are awesome

Pink Tricam is good, Black Totem is good, Red Rocks is good, Joshua Tree is good

Pretty much any world-renowned climbing area is most likely all agreed upon is good right? 

5.11d is harder than 5.12a

one that i forgot: so ill is junk

Lone Pine wrote: 5.11d is harder than 5.12a

Dammit. Probably the most truthful thing i've read on here in weeks!

We miss Blitzo. 

Sport climbing is neither.

5.9+ comment made me laugh. 4 Sheets to the Wind at the New was my nemesis for two years 

Marc H wrote: Sport climbing is neither.

no chance that causes a disagreement 

Joe Lynch wrote: Although infighting is fun, I thought it would also be fun to come up with a list of things that are not debated among climbers.  Here’s what I have so far:

- Anything 5.9+ is the hardest route at the crag
- Falling is scary
- Gear is awesome
- A good climbing partner is more valuable than any piece of gear
- Yosemite is incredible
- The Gunks are incredible
- Big rocks anywhere are incredible
- People who develop routes with good ethics are awesome
- There are too many TR solo threads
 What else you guys got?

I appreciate the effort but your list may be harder to build than mine ;)

I ll still give it a try:

The lighter the helmet the more likely you re to wear it
Adam Ondra is the best sport climber in history
Climate change is real, if you don't trust me come and see the high alpine
Grigri is.......... no, who am I kidding?? Some will never agree on this one! ;) 

Fabien M wrote:

I appreciate the effort but your list may be harder to build than mine ;)

I ll still give it a try:

The lighter the helmet the more likely you re to wear it
Adam Ondra is the best sport climber in history
Climate change is real, if you don't trust me come and see the high alpine
Grigri is.......... no, who am I kidding?? Some will never agree on this one! ;) 

yea this is definitely more difficult, i stalled after “falling is scary.” +1 for ondra tho

Staying home away from the crags sucks
People who are still climbing AND THEY POST PICTURES OF IT suck even worse

RR and Josh are too crowded, IC and Yos are way too crowded, link cams are basically explosive devices, and YGD™️

Joe Lynch wrote: Although infighting is fun, I thought it would also be fun to come up with a list of things that are not debated among climbers.  Here’s what I have so far:

- Anything 5.9+ is the hardest route at the crag
- Falling is scary
- Gear is awesome
- A good climbing partner is more valuable than any piece of gear
- Yosemite is incredible
- The Gunks are incredible
- Big rocks anywhere are incredible
- People who develop routes with good ethics are awesome
- There are too many TR solo threads
 What else you guys got?

I agree...but I climb alone/solo way more often than with a partner....my partners are all retired or dead(at least to climbing).

RRG is great if you like clipping bolts.
Lumpy is awesome if you don't.
OW is only scary if you care about dying

Free Solo is to blame.

Thanks Hondo.

Free soloing naked is the purest form of climbing

It goes, boys. 

Leave your damn dogs home.

Size #1 nuts are scary to look at.

Never Power Scream (especially on a 5.7)

Gunkiemike wrote: Staying home away from the crags sucks
People who are still climbing AND THEY POST PICTURES OF IT suck even worse

probably the truest thing yet

Ice crow exists