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Martin Brzozowski
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Feb 13, 2020
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Costa Mesa, CA
· Joined Aug 2019
· Points: 120
Looking to do some alpine routes this summer. I feel like chalk isn’t necessary for moderate climbing, but maybe for harder routes? What else do you leave behind or bring along?
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P Degner
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Feb 13, 2020
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anywhere
· Joined Nov 2015
· Points: 263
Bring sunglasses that you don't mind getting scratched up
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Cosmic Charlie
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Feb 13, 2020
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Washington
· Joined Feb 2014
· Points: 0
Chalk is a preference. I bring it on everything because I tend to sweat quite a bit. I always bring layers, food, water, sunnies, and approach shoes. Anything else will depend on the climb and how long I'll be away from my car/camp.
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Andy Eiter
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Feb 13, 2020
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Madison, WI
· Joined Jul 2014
· Points: 276
Chalk is a great psychological boost. One dip is equivalent to about 7 "come on, you got this" 's.
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John Ryan
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Feb 13, 2020
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Poncha Springs, CO
· Joined Aug 2012
· Points: 170
Consider using water purification tablets or a lightweight water filter instead of lugging all your water all the way from the car to the climb. If your pack is heavy you can save a few pounds with a ultra lightweight pack.
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Jon Nelson
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Feb 13, 2020
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Redmond, WA
· Joined Sep 2011
· Points: 8,763
Martin, you might try going without chalk on your usual rock-climbing outings, see how you do.
I used to be compulsive about chalking, then I just left the chalk bag at home one day and haven't used it since. My argument for not using it is that I probably climb faster without it. Instead of lingering on a hard sequence, I just go for it.
In the alpine, I bring extra lengths of 1/2" or 9/16" tubular webbing for anchors.
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Bug Boy
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Feb 13, 2020
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Boulder, CO :(
· Joined Aug 2017
· Points: 81
The weight is worth the psychological boost for me, especially soloing. To each their own though.
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Kyle Elliott
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Feb 14, 2020
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Granite falls
· Joined Jul 2015
· Points: 1,798
You don't need it until you need it
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Long Ranger
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Feb 14, 2020
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Boulder, CO
· Joined Jan 2014
· Points: 669
Since MP can't come to an agreeance on what alpine climbing is, the answer is, "It depends"
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Matt N
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Feb 14, 2020
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CA
· Joined Oct 2010
· Points: 476
Andy Eiter wrote: Chalk is a great psychological boost. One dip is equivalent to about 7 "come on, you got this" 's. It works so well I use it on slabs with 0 handholds. Honestly.
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ThomasR
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Feb 14, 2020
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Los Angeles, CA
· Joined May 2013
· Points: 0
seconding a light filter or tablets for water if there's a water source. saves weight
also- a tiny knife, extra webbing for rap/bail anchors, a buff, and i prefer to have chalk for "alpine" rock climbing
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Ryan Mac
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Feb 15, 2020
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Durango, CO
· Joined Apr 2019
· Points: 1
Long Ranger wrote: Since MP can't come to an agreeance on what alpine climbing is, the answer is, "It depends"
I thought we came to the general consensus that "If you can kill your partner and no one will ask any questions, then you're alpine climbing" was the definition?
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ADAM GRANT
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Feb 15, 2020
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CHUBBUCK
· Joined Aug 2017
· Points: 422
S.O.L. Makes a very small bivy bag. It fits in the palm of your hand. It weighs nothing and takes up no room in your pack. Infect you will forget it is in there until you need it then it is the greatest thing you forgot you had.
Side note: Two adults can fit into one bag. Picture squeezing your neighbors cow Birtha into a shiny pair of orange spandex. Said spandex will be stretched to the max, uncomfortable, awkward, nothing you want to write home about but they will keep you around to tell the story after a few beers around a camp fire.
Oooh and chalk is my binkie so I bring it.
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Mark Pilate
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Feb 15, 2020
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MN
· Joined Jun 2013
· Points: 25
ADAM GRANT wrote:.... they will keep you around to tell the story after a few bears around a camp fire. Under those circumstances, usually the only ones left to tell the story are the bears...
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Mark Pilate
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Feb 15, 2020
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MN
· Joined Jun 2013
· Points: 25
I know this goes against the grain of many an adamant belief to the contrary, but chalk is just simply not needed anywhere unless it’s hot, humid, and the climb is north of 5.10.
As Andy and others stated, it IS totally a psychological “Binkie”.....
Taking a dip is just something more polite to do in public with that free hand when taking a “rest”.
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ADAM GRANT
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Feb 15, 2020
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CHUBBUCK
· Joined Aug 2017
· Points: 422
Mark Pilate wrote: Under those circumstances, usually the only ones left to tell the story are the bears... The joys of not proof reading! lol
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Kyle Elliott
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Feb 15, 2020
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Granite falls
· Joined Jul 2015
· Points: 1,798
Chalk is handy when climbing routes that seep or have standing water on ledges. Sometimes wiping your hands on your clothes doesn't do the trick. I also carry my phone and a can of long cut in my chalkbag.
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Fabien M
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Mar 28, 2020
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Cannes
· Joined Dec 2019
· Points: 5
Interesting topic, I cannot see myself climbing sport routes without chalk. On the other hand I never take chalk when alpine climbing, I think mainly for 3 reasons, first I don't sweat that much at altitude and second I never climb alpine route that are at my limit or even above it, which is something I routinely do while sport climbing and I also think that having to place the pro, climb with mountaineering boots and with a pack on is enough to suck me dry, literally ;)
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