Mp needs to evolve-provide the option to not view political posts

Mp needs to have an option to deselect viewing political forum posts-the same way that you can deselect viewing “for sale” posts.

Personally I don’t care about any political opinions on this site-keep it to climbing beta.

Just don’t click on them.

If I recall correctly, the rc.com system was pretty good: keep the banter in a separate section, and don't display thread updates on the main page.  Maybe not a bad idea here.

Or, you can just ignore discussions as appropriate.

rockclimbing.com and supertopo each had different ways of handling it, but neither forum is still around. I just want MP to do whatever it needs to in order to keep the forums alive. 

What this site needs is an enema.

Robert Rowsam wrote: I just want MP to do whatever it needs to in order to keep the forums alive. 

Censoring speech is certainly not going to assist in this mission.

Come on, bros. Look at the headlines. Only two political threads, one of which clearly states it is political now. You can avoid clicking on those, right? You can do it. I have faith in you.

One of the reasons rockclimbing.com died was overmoderation. It was the reason I stopped visiting for sure. Supertopo was living on borrowed time, as the owner didn't care for the forums at all. MP is all there is left in the US of A. UK climbing forums just are not interesting in the least. I have spent many hours there and you really don't get much of a sense of who is posting there at all. At least here, you know what you are in for.

What a pathetic Appeal to Authority.
Do you not have the cognitive ability to choose which forum post you to decide which to click on?

Should they provide you with a fainting couch too?  Just don't click on stuff you don't want to read.

I mean most don't start as political. then one person makes a taxation is theft or Epstein didn't kill himself reference and the discussion turns into cspan.

Deven Lewis wrote: I mean most don't start as political. then one person makes a taxation is theft or Epstein didn't kill himself reference and the discussion turns into cspan.

I think you need to evolve, just look what's happening to the outdoors thanks to dufus being in charge.
VOTE!

I'll buy into this if we can stop talking about where to move and any thread discussing/comparing Tacomas, Subarus or vans.

So are we using the "politics is when people talk about things I don't want to talk about" definition, or some other one? The current political thread started as a genuine climbing question about money in the guiding industry.  There were several pages of "political" opinions that still answered the question until eventually it got completely off topic. Where do we draw the line and stamp the "political" tag? Does the "climbing beta" you seek include updates on that BLM campground or the ethics of a crag in a State Park? These are political topics whether you like it or not. Our sport revolves around government-owned land, and in a broader sense our community interacts with society. For what it's worth, there are dumber things that people argue about on this site. Scroll past what you don't want to read and move on with your day. 

Dana Bartlett wrote: Have you looked at UK Climbing?  Very useful articles, great opinion pieces on a wide variety of topics, lots of destination articles. The forums are good, too. It beats MP hands down in quality. Other than the route database, there is no good reason to use this site.

Each to their own, I like MP forums more than UKC.

US has more of everything - people, rock, climbing styles, elevation, purchasing power. Changes the climbing culture a bit. That's all on top of the society wide culture/value differences between the US and the UK.

How about adding a "dumpster fire" icon that we can click to dump the offending thread into? On second thought, if we do that, the forums might become a blank page.

One person's annoying thread is another person's entertainment. Leave it be.

 r m wrote: US has more of everything - people, rock, climbing styles, elevation, purchasing power.

Objection your honour (with a ‘u’)!

The UK has longer paid holidays for your average salarywoman (typically 5-6 weeks rather than your meagre two).

A far greater proportion (a guesstimate says >50%) of the UK population have easily accessible rock climbing: all the large towns and cities outside London / the south east are within an hour’s drive of good or very good crags. Climbing after work is feasible for much of the population for much of the year. 

For most, the UK climate is better: temperature extremes are much less pronounced than for most US population centres so rock climbing is a year-round activity for most people. 

UK climbers have far more world-class sport climbing within a short flight, train, or day’s drive (it’s mostly in France and Spain, but since London to Ceuse is easier than New York to Red River Gorge my point stands). 

All this means for your average person with family and work commitments the UK is far better place to be a rock climber than the US. The US is for sure a better place for a two month vacation; the UK is a better place to live and work and climb.  Consequently, UK climbers’ careers last much longer: I see far more oldies at the crag and gyms than I do in the US. 

Dana Bartlett wrote: Have you looked at UK Climbing?  Very useful articles, great opinion pieces on a wide variety of topics, lots of destination articles. The forums are good, too. It beats MP hands down in quality. Other than the route database, there is no good reason to use this site.

UKc is garbage in pretty much every way, anybody who actually climbs is on uk bouldering. 

The forums lack any technical knowledge are full of punters who's only experience is grit, the political forum is easily as bad as here if not worse with brexit being the most polarising issue in British history. The topics are and destination articles are all just paid content either paid to promote rockfax (ukc's own guidebooks) or once a company has done lots of advertising with ukc they will review their product, there is very rarely an article that isn't just cashing in. Because ukc owns rockfax they're never going to actually push for well filled out route database on ukc to avoid competition with rockfax.
Ukc is garbage, MP is considerably better. 

Funny -  he doesn’t like non-climbing, opinion based, dumpster fire treads so he sparks up his Bic and starts his own non-climbing, opinion based dumpster fire...

The option to hide For Sale posts should be eliminated! They are just as entertaining as regular posts.

akafaultline wrote: Mp needs to have an option to deselect viewing political forum posts-the same way that you can deselect viewing “for sale” posts.

Personally I don’t care about any political opinions on this site-keep it to climbing beta.

I suggested that mproj "geniuses  behind curtains"  create button to request a thread be moved to the "Community Forum". "Community Forum" does not show up in front page updates, as a result all inflammatory threads flame out. 

For example - if you click to button to "Flag" a comment, one of the options suggested could be "Move it to Community Forum", without having need to explain why a particular thread needs to go there.

akafaultline wrote: Mp needs to have an option to deselect viewing political forum posts-the same way that you can deselect viewing “for sale” posts.

Personally I don’t care about any political opinions on this site-keep it to climbing beta.

You just created another thread about politics ... troll 0/10