mammut wall rider

Any good or bad experiences with this helmet? Durability or build? It looks like it combines the best of both helmet designs.

I actually reviewed the Wall Rider for Bentgate Mountaineering. Non-biased review, I really enjoy it and now use it exclusively.

Bentgate Mountaineering Review - Mammut Wall Rider Helmet

I've wondered about this helmet as well. I want the Sirocco but the color and shape are... questionable.

It's pretty similar to the Sirocco in terms of lightness and comfort but I think it's a lot more comfortable/low profile/better looking.

Great write-up, Lucie.

Hi all, first time chiming in on a thread, but I think the Sicorro is better. I took this on an 8 month South American climbing trip. It's light, good looking, comfortable, visor, headlamp compatible, sheds icefall well, etc. Pretty much all I need in a helmet, with the exception of a pretty serious design flaw.

It was strapped to my backpack on a slippery alpine descent, and I fell and it broke along the plastic/EPP foam transition when I slipped. It's a pretty prominent point of weakness that doesn't exist in a side by side comparison with the Petzl Sirocco (and it's a few bucks cheaper). Along each of the three struts on half the helmet!

As a mechanical engineer, I notice that this design could be improved by increasing the bend radii for strain relief, or just increasing the cross sectional area along the fracture line. What a bummer on an otherwise great helmet. Hope it's addressed in future revisions, or my next will be a Sirocco (despite how ugly they are, they've also got a 3 year guarantee that Mammut doesn't have, as well as being a few bucks cheaper)

Whatever, I put some GOOP on it and lashed it with tape, as it'll still shed impacts from above, and feels as sturdy as the other side. To be honest I'm just a little disappointed in the engineering!

But yes... it looks good in the crag.

I've been very happy with mine after 15+ years in the petzl meteor. Very light, I don't even notice it on my head. My only complaint is that the chin buckle slips pretty much every time I wear it. I think the last time I adjusted the strap on the meteor was the day I bought it in 2001 or whatever.

William Buchanan wrote:

Hi all, first time chiming in on a thread, but I think the Sicorro is better. I took this on an 8 month South American climbing trip. It's light, good looking, comfortable, visor, headlamp compatible, sheds icefall well, etc. Pretty much all I need in a helmet, with the exception of a pretty serious design flaw.

It was strapped to my backpack on a slippery alpine descent, and I fell and it broke along the plastic/EPP foam transition when I slipped. It's a pretty prominent point of weakness that doesn't exist in a side by side comparison with the Petzl Sirocco (and it's a few bucks cheaper). Along each of the three struts on half the helmet!

As a mechanical engineer, I notice that this design could be improved by increasing the bend radii for strain relief, or just increasing the cross sectional area along the fracture line. What a bummer on an otherwise great helmet. Hope it's addressed in future revisions, or my next will be a Sirocco (despite how ugly they are, they've also got a 3 year guarantee that Mammut doesn't have, as well as being a few bucks cheaper)

Whatever, I put some GOOP on it and lashed it with tape, as it'll still shed impacts from above, and feels as sturdy as the other side. To be honest I'm just a little disappointed in the engineering!

But yes... it looks good in the crag.

... maybe, but it might be a stretch to assume any of the ultralight foam helmets is going to survive being fallen on while it's on the outside of your pack

anyways i have had the wall rider for a few months now and I've been pretty happy. durable (at least compared to my friend's BD vapor), comfy, and light

Agreed, it is way more durable than a BD vapor, and is comfy and light. I am still wearing mine after many months. 

Just pointing out the weakness and its alternative since I haven't seen anyone mention it :)

The new Sirocco  has a top shell just like the mammut...

https://www.backcountry.com/petzl-sirocco-helmet?CMP_SKU=PTZ006T&MER=0406&skid=PTZ006T-BK-SM&CMP_ID=PLA_BNG001&utm_source=Bing&utm_medium=PLA&mr:trackingCode=768CE356-0651-E711-8100-005056944E17&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=pa&mr:ad=8823334153&mr:filter=1100200197847

I'm now no longer a satisfied customer. After a flight I pulled the wallrider out and two of the support pillars on the left side of the helmet were broken. Must've taken my prior Petzl Meteor 3 on 30 or 40 flights with no incident. Really not impressed.

My wallrider cracked and Mammut replaced no  questions asked.

I have been more than satisfied with the helmet!

Mike-Mayhem wrote:

My wallrider cracked and Mammut replaced no  questions asked.

I have been more than satisfied with the helmet!

Hmm, thanks Mike that's good to know. How did you arrange that, just via their website?

Overall it is a very comfy and light helmet, that part remains true...

Optimistic wrote:

Hmm, thanks Mike that's good to know. How did you arrange that, just via their website?

Overall it is a very comfy and light helmet, that part remains true...

I called and talked to customer service. They just asked for a picture and then sent me a new one!

Mike-Mayhem wrote:

I called and talked to customer service. They just asked for a picture and then sent me a new one!

Thanks Mike, I'll give that a try.

I love this helmet - I put too many dents into my old Vector from silly shit so the hardshell is fantastic. Also the strap system on this helmet is so simple and works so well.

Mike-Mayhem wrote:

I called and talked to customer service. They just asked for a picture and then sent me a new one!

I wanted to add that Mammut has now done the same thing for me, which is impressive. I guess going forward I'm going have to just pack my helmet as though I'm packing an egg in my luggage. One guy at my local gear shop suggested not checking it at all, but I've had surprise gate checks too many times to rely on that. He also said that the wallrider can pass through the UIAA impact test multiple times, which my Meteor apparently cannot do.

Mine was on the side of my harness and got caught under a rock in a talus field on the approach. the side broke off and I superglued and taped it back together for the day of climbing. I guess I'll be calling mammut based on people's experiences with customer service. Otherwise it has been an awesome helmet. Super super light.

The helmet durability is questionable... I used mine in everyday usage(sport climbing, etc...) and it cracked or had foam gouged out just from shoving it into my pack and moving it around.

I will say, as others have mentioned, mammut's customer service is second to none and they sent me a replacement right away. They actually sent me another replacement after the foam cracked again.

I ended up buying a rock rider for sport and multi-pitch trad and will be using the wall rider for alpine missions(or when I just want to lighten my load).

If you're looking for a a daily driver this probably isn't it, but works great as a lightweight alpine helmet.

Just a little update 2 years on, my replacement Wall Rider has been good so far, no further cracking. Could just be coincidence, but since the first one was damaged while in checked airline baggage, I've been super careful with the second one when flying. I pack the inside of it with clothes and place it in the center of my biggest bag, dome up, with more soft stuff all around. So far so good.
While the helmet is definitely comfortable and light I don't think I'd buy it again due to the fact that the chin strap (at least on both of mine) is constantly slipping. 

I have found the Wall Rider to be much more durable than the BD Vapor it replaced; have been very happy with the fit. too.  The EPP foam has some flex vs. the more rigid EPS foam in many other helmets that tends to crack.  All of the "foam" helmets are less rugged than the old hard shells, but the weight reduction makes that an easy trade-off for me.