Indian Creek Camping - keeping beer cold

Flying in and going to the creek in a few weeks, not sure which campground we'll be at yet, likely Bridger Jack or some other BLM site.  From what I've been reading, seems like Moab is the nearest civilization?  meals are not gonna be a problem, sandwiches, ramen, i don't need to keep any of that cold.  But the beer.  Gotta keep the beer cold.  Any beta on this topic?  Can I find ice somewhere closer than Moab?  Dry ice?  As of now my thoughts were pick up a cheap burner cooler by the airport and load up before heading to the creek.  Ice isn't gonna last 5 days in a cheap cooler in the desert.

Get a coleman extreme cooler. Super cheap and a block of ice (not chips) lasted four days in moab for me. It was not in my hot car but still. Do not put anything in the cooler that is not already cold. Cover the cooler in a damp towel. 

Chris Kalous has a mini fridge somewhere around Scarface. He’ll most likely let you store your shit in it, if you send him a picture of you sending Scarface. 

I'm not sure if you could find a cooler in Monticello, but there is a liquor store and gas stations that will have ice. Keep in mind, in Utah good beer (above 3.2%) is only found at Liquor stores not sold cold.

Thanks!

The block ice is a great idea, appreciate the reminder on the beer as well.  Flying in to Grand Junction, so i'll pick up a cooler and buy some adult beers there and leave the 3.2 kiddie beers in Utah.  Scarface is on the to-do list, but i'm not banking on a clean send for mini-fridge privileges. 

Eric Howe wrote: ...appreciate the reminder on the beer as well.  Flying in to Grand Junction, so i'll pick up a cooler and buy some adult beers there and leave the 3.2 kiddie beers in Utah.

Most people don't realize that in Utah the alcohol content of beer is measured by weight. In the rest of the country it's done by volume. So when folks hear "3.2%" they compare that to nominal 5% by volume of Bud and think it's very weak and "watered down".
Facts:
3.2% by weight = 4% by volume
Guinness on tap in Ireland is 3.3% by weight
If you want the same amount of alcohol that you get in 12oz of PBR (which is about 5.1% by vol)from elsewhere in a Utah beer, you would need to consume an extra 0.85 oz of the Utah beer - a few drops more than half a shot. And if you're just drinking it to get a buzz, there are more efficient methods.

Also, any reasonably competent brewer can make a good tasting 6.5% beer - it takes real skill to do the same at 4%. The Utah craft brewers excel at it.

Definitely buy beer in CO. Closest ice to the Creek is in Monticello or possibly at the Needles Outpost store which is 15 mins towards Canyonlands. Can’t remember if they sell ice though. 

Marc801 C wrote: Most people don't realize that in Utah the alcohol content of beer is measured by weight. In the rest of the country it's done by volume. So when folks hear "3.2%" they compare that to nominal 5% by volume of Bud and think it's very weak and "watered down".
Facts:
3.2% by weight = 4% by volume
Guinness on tap in Ireland is 3.3% by weight
If you want the same amount of alcohol that you get in 12oz of PBR (which is about 5.1% by vol)from elsewhere in a Utah beer, you would need to consume an extra 0.85 oz of the Utah beer - a few drops more than half a shot. And if you're just drinking it to get a buzz, there are more efficient methods.

Also, any reasonably competent brewer can make a good tasting 6.5% beer - it takes real skill to do the same at 4%. The Utah craft brewers excel at it.

That's a lot of words to defend piss water.  

As of 2 years ago, Needles Outpost had ice AND Polygamy Porter.  Keep cooler as full as possible, even stuffing clothing, towels, etc on the top to take up dead airspace. A down sleeping bag is fantastic for this. Keep it in the shade and not in your car. Secure top with heavy rock at all times so ravens don't steal shit.  Block ice.  If you can, steal some yuppie's Yeti.  

Erroneous Publicus wrote:

That's a lot of words to defend piss water.  

Obviously uninformed.

[From: https://utahbeernews.com/utah-brewers-take-home-2019-naba-honors/ ]

The following Utah breweries earned medals in the 2019 International Beer Awards (scroll further to see specific winning beers):

• Bohemian Brewery
• Bonneville Brewery
• Epic Brewing Company
• Hoppers Grill & Brewing Co.
• Kiitos Brewing
• Proper Brewing Co.
• Red Rock Brewery
• Roosters Brewing Co.
• Salt Flats Brewing Co.
• Shades Brewing
• Talisman Brewing Co.
• T.F. Brewing
• Uinta Brewing Co.

Winning Beers from Utah (Category in Parentheses)
Bohemian Brewery

• Bronze — Alt Bier (9G – Altbier)

Bonneville Brewery

• Silver — Sir Malcolm’s Stout (10G – Dry Stout)
• Bronze — Antelope Amber Ale (9A – Ordinary Bitter Best Bitter)

Epic Brewing Company

• Gold — Epic Imperial Stout (10L – Imperial Stout)
• Bronze — Brainless Belgian-Style Golden Ale (13F – Belgian-style Pale Strong Ale)

Hoppers Grill & Brewing Co.

• Gold — This is the Pilsener (2C – Bohemian-Style Pilsner)

Kiitos Brewing

• Bronze — Barley Wine (11E – American-Style Barley Wine)

Proper Brewing Company

• Silver — Czech Your Head (2C – Bohemian-Style Pilsner)

Red Rock Brewing

• Gold — Marvella (13E – Tripel)
• Gold — Citra Pils (1D – American-Style Pilsner or Hoppy Lager)
• Silver — White Rainbow (8E – Belgian-style India Pale Ale)
• Bronze — Biere de Mars (13C – Biere de Garde)
• Bronze — Zwickelbier (15D – Session Beer)

Roosters Brewing Co.

• Silver — Ninerbock (4C – Doppelbock)

Salt Flats Brewing Co.

• Bronze — Deuce Coupe Copper Lager (3A – American-Style Amber Lager)

Shades Brewing

• Gold — Kveik Pina Colada (18 – Specialty and Experimental Beers)
• Bronze — American Light Lager  (1A – American-Style Light – Low-Calorie – Lager)

Talisman Brewing Co.

• Silver — Comin’ In Hop (8A – Session-Style India Pale Ale)
• Bronze — Uplifted  (9CD – Scottish-Style Heavy or Light)

T.F. Brewing

• Silver — Terpene IPA (18 – Specialty and Experimental Beers)
• Bronze — Rita is a Hose Monkey  (2C – Bohemian-Style Pilsner)

Uinta Brewing Co.

• Silver — Croggy Brett Saison (14E – Brett Beer)
• Silver — Clear Daze Juicy IPA (7C – American-Style Strong Pale Ale)
• Bronze — Cutthroat Pale Ale (7B – English-Style Pale Ale)

International Beer Awards
Winners were announced on May 31 as part of the 2019 Mountain Brewers Beer Fest in Idaho Falls. In 2018, the competition received over 1,900 entries, organizers said.

J F wrote: Needles Outpost store which is 15 mins towards Canyonlands. Can’t remember if they sell ice though. 

The sign advertising them definitely says they sell ice, but I'm not completely sure.  They have a freezer for ice cream so I imagine they have ice on hand as well.  Just know you'll be paying a premium.  

Marc801 C wrote: Obviously uninformed.

VT has better beer doe (Much much better beer)

Adam Fleming wrote:

The sign advertising them definitely says they sell ice, but I'm not completely sure.  They have a freezer for ice cream so I imagine they have ice on hand as well. 

They have a campground, too, so I'd say that ice is likely

 Just know you'll be paying a premium.  

Seeing that their gas is over $6/gal.......

Just for the record, I love Utah, but not your grocery store piss beer.  Nothing more disappointing that a 3.2% IPA.  Hot tip: You can get the real stuff in cans at the little store in the front of the Moab brewery, anytime they are open.   

Marc801 C wrote: Obviously uninformed.

[From: https://utahbeernews.com/utah-brewers-take-home-2019-naba-honors/ ]

The following Utah breweries earned medals in the 2019 International Beer Awards (scroll further to see specific winning beers):

• Bohemian Brewery
• Bonneville Brewery
• Epic Brewing Company
• Hoppers Grill & Brewing Co.
• Kiitos Brewing
• Proper Brewing Co.
• Red Rock Brewery
• Roosters Brewing Co.
• Salt Flats Brewing Co.
• Shades Brewing
• Talisman Brewing Co.
• T.F. Brewing
• Uinta Brewing Co.

Winning Beers from Utah (Category in Parentheses)
Bohemian Brewery

• Bronze — Alt Bier (9G – Altbier)

Bonneville Brewery

• Silver — Sir Malcolm’s Stout (10G – Dry Stout)
• Bronze — Antelope Amber Ale (9A – Ordinary Bitter Best Bitter)

Epic Brewing Company

• Gold — Epic Imperial Stout (10L – Imperial Stout)
• Bronze — Brainless Belgian-Style Golden Ale (13F – Belgian-style Pale Strong Ale)

Hoppers Grill & Brewing Co.

• Gold — This is the Pilsener (2C – Bohemian-Style Pilsner)

Kiitos Brewing

• Bronze — Barley Wine (11E – American-Style Barley Wine)

Proper Brewing Company

• Silver — Czech Your Head (2C – Bohemian-Style Pilsner)

Red Rock Brewing

• Gold — Marvella (13E – Tripel)
• Gold — Citra Pils (1D – American-Style Pilsner or Hoppy Lager)
• Silver — White Rainbow (8E – Belgian-style India Pale Ale)
• Bronze — Biere de Mars (13C – Biere de Garde)
• Bronze — Zwickelbier (15D – Session Beer)

Roosters Brewing Co.

• Silver — Ninerbock (4C – Doppelbock)

Salt Flats Brewing Co.

• Bronze — Deuce Coupe Copper Lager (3A – American-Style Amber Lager)

Shades Brewing

• Gold — Kveik Pina Colada (18 – Specialty and Experimental Beers)
• Bronze — American Light Lager  (1A – American-Style Light – Low-Calorie – Lager)

Talisman Brewing Co.

• Silver — Comin’ In Hop (8A – Session-Style India Pale Ale)
• Bronze — Uplifted  (9CD – Scottish-Style Heavy or Light)

T.F. Brewing

• Silver — Terpene IPA (18 – Specialty and Experimental Beers)
• Bronze — Rita is a Hose Monkey  (2C – Bohemian-Style Pilsner)

Uinta Brewing Co.

• Silver — Croggy Brett Saison (14E – Brett Beer)
• Silver — Clear Daze Juicy IPA (7C – American-Style Strong Pale Ale)
• Bronze — Cutthroat Pale Ale (7B – English-Style Pale Ale)

International Beer Awards
Winners were announced on May 31 as part of the 2019 Mountain Brewers Beer Fest in Idaho Falls. In 2018, the competition received over 1,900 entries, organizers said.

Triggered.

Put dry ice under your "wet" ice. Works like a charm to extend things. All the other tips about keeping the cooler full with cold stuff and lid closed at all times are ALSO true. And buy your beer cold if possible. 

Drink it quickly before it gets warm.

Just drink it when you wake up, should be cold from the overnight.

Señor Arroz wrote: Put dry ice under your "wet" ice. Works like a charm to extend things.

It's more efficient and works longer if the dry ice is on top of everything. The cold and heavier CO2 want to travel downward in the cooler. If the water ice is on top of the dry ice then it's very likely the water will come into contact with the dry ice and turn it to gas very quickly.

Your cooler top to bottom should look like:

lid
dry ice
food items
water ice

Marc801 C wrote: Most people don't realize that in Utah the alcohol content of beer is measured by weight. In the rest of the country it's done by volume. So when folks hear "3.2%" they compare that to nominal 5% by volume of Bud and think it's very weak and "watered down".
Facts:
3.2% by weight = 4% by volume
Guinness on tap in Ireland is 3.3% by weight
If you want the same amount of alcohol that you get in 12oz of PBR (which is about 5.1% by vol)from elsewhere in a Utah beer, you would need to consume an extra 0.85 oz of the Utah beer - a few drops more than half a shot. And if you're just drinking it to get a buzz, there are more efficient methods.
. . . 

The math seems off.

12 ounces of PBR (at 5.1% Alcohol by Volume) yields 0.612 ounces of alcohol.
You'd need 15.3 ounces of beer that is 4% ABV to yield 0.612 ounces of alcohol.

So instead of "a few drops more than half a shot," you need over two additional 1.5 ounces shots.

First world problem.

Be warned; dry ice can easily freeze your beer.