Minimalist/Barefoot Approach Shoe
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Hi everyone, |
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They don't exist, AFAIK. I would be first in line if they did. |
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Sanuk used to make a pair with sticky rubber and leather upper. But they discontinued it. Might be able to find a pair some where. |
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If you wait a little while Altra will come out with an approach shoe. |
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Also my Altras would just not be my first pick for anything remotely technical. Sloppy shoes - good for running, not so for scrambling - or even heavy bushwhacking. We had a lot of problems with Altra users in the Alaska bush this past month just walking the rivers and going over passes. |
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Noah Yetter wrote:The Bedrock Cairn sandals are the closest. They tick the boxes for zero drop, wide toe box, and sticky rubber, but obviously there are huge limitations to sandals. There are also Vibram five fingers made with Megagrip, if you're into that. Those sandals look light and minimal. My favorite multipitch approach shoe in the Sportiva TX2's. SUPER light weight and packable. There is a bungy things that attaches them to each other.The only problem is that they wear out faster than the TX3. |
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Long Ranger wrote: Also my Altras would just not be my first pick for anything remotely technical. Sloppy shoes - good for running, not so for scrambling - or even heavy bushwhacking. We had a lot of problems with Altra users in the Alaska bush this past month just walking the rivers and going over passes. Altra does have an approach shoe coming out called the Wahweap. Looks like they are using the same rubber as the Lone Peak. I've done some pretty serious scrambling in Superiors and Lone Peaks. Not ideal, but I do feel like I'm able to use my feet to grab the rock and haven't had any major issues. I wear Adidas Terrex Swift Solo now for scrambly approaches, they are fairly minimal. You can still feel the ground and grip with your feet a bit and the Stealth rubber makes life a lot easier. Unfortunately they have a slightly raised heel. After years of wearing Altra, I definitely notice the heel and how it impacts my gait. |
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Saltic Fura |
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Sam Cieply wrote:Did they change the rubber between the lone peak 3.0 and the versions afterwards? I never found the rubber all that sticky in the 3.0's. Long lasting, yes; but same stickiness as any other trailrunner, outside LS's offerings. Any problems with build quality in the latest Altras? I've been told it's getting a bit worse (Which is why I'm on the 3.0's and not intersting in going past). We had shoes fall apart after only a week or so. They seem to be very popular with PCT thru-hikers, but that's not a very technical hike in most places. I'm not digging the Wahweap's interface from midsole to upper. That's going to get wrecked in anything remotely close to looking like a crack. These shoes look more like lifestyle/aprés activity shoes. I'm not a fan of the Evolv shoes, either. Perhaps the Scarpa approach shoes do a better job emulating the old gym shoes post-hardcore kids in the late nineties wore. I think other than the comparable sloppiness from such a large toebox - which I like in a running shoe (but not in an approach, I find the softness and the thickness of the midsole just not ideal for an approach shoe, if you're doing actual scrambly stuff. We do so much long, scrambly, slabby, climbs with lots of smearing - it's a little different than just hiking up some th to the crag. If that's all you wanna do, I think lots of shoes would work. |
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I just do the approach with my Mythos climbing shoes and clean them before the actual climb. same for the way down. Can't imagine going more "minimalist" |
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After 40 years you'll look back and wish you had worn lightweight Hiking Boots & stiff edging climbing shoes. |
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Have you looked at Joe Nimble? A bit pricy but look like they fit your specs. us.joe-nimble.com/products/… |
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duncan... wrote: Those look sweet! I cant seem to find anyone in the states who imports them though. |
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Suburban Roadside wrote: After 40 years you'll look back and wish you had worn lightweight Hiking Boots & stiff edging climbing shoes. As a "seasoned" climber, I'll second this. I now wear TX3/4 or Zamberlan approach shoes because they actually support your foot more. My main climbing shoes (not gym) are Boreal Ballet Gold and an old pair of La Sportiva Synchros. That is as stiff as they get. |
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Hey - check out lems - I got a pair of primal 2s and they have been great! I think she would fit most of your boxes. |
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Try xero shoes. I think they fit your criteria. |
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Look into Vivobarefoot shoes if you haven't already. I own a pair of their swimrun shoes and enjoy them very much. They have a trail shoe as well. I haven't tried that one myself but heard good things. |
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Long Ranger wrote: Did they change the rubber between the lone peak 3.0 and the versions afterwards? I never found the rubber all that sticky in the 3.0's. Long lasting, yes; but same stickiness as any other trailrunner, outside LS's offerings. Any problems with build quality in the latest Altras? I've been told it's getting a bit worse (Which is why I'm on the 3.0's and not intersting in going past). We had shoes fall apart after only a week or so. They seem to be very popular with PCT thru-hikers, but that's not a very technical hike in most places. I think they've been using the same rubber, and no, it's not particularly sticky. I assume the tread pattern on the Wahweap will be more conducive to scrambling and creating friction on rock rather than trail running. Doubt it will be able to compete with Stealth, Trax, Vibram though. Lone Peak 3.5 were my least favorite. Mine have an issue with the padding in the ankle (gets all lumpy and uncomfortable) and the rubber is separating on the toe. Lone Peak 3.0 held up much better and I love my Superior 3. The newest iterations of both look great and much improved build quality, but I haven't worn them yet. |
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I was thinking of the Merrel Trail Glove 4. I tried them on at REI and liked them. I had another pair of Merrels that I used as light approach shoes for multi-pitch and as packable day hikers when I went backpacking, |
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