The Ethics of Crack Gloves and Tape at Indian Creek

Find a different place to climb. There are thousands of miles of untouched Wingate in Utah where you don't have to push through mobs of taped up van-lifers.

Ban CO climbers.

Mickey Guziak wrote: Find a different place to climb. There are thousands of miles of untouched Wingate in Utah where you don't have to push through mobs of taped up van-lifers.

This solves nothing. Populations are growing and the number of climbers much more rapidly so. The creek was at one point a quiet middle of nowhere place. You can climb weekdays but in a decade weekday crowds may be as bad as weekend crowds now. You can climb at obscure crags but in a decade they may be as busy as classic places are now. 

Sure for a temporary personal reprieve from crowds these measures work. But we're talking about preventing permanent damage to beautiful places. That requires foresight and sacrifice.

Jack Cramer wrote: If we climbers don’t get our act together, it’s possible we could soon see management action to restrict visitation

Dude this is Utah. our politicians wont let any new rules be enacted that would result in environmental protections.  

To the OP:
I have not read through 5 pages of stuff so I don’t know what the response to you had been.

You have a genuine concern about human impact on a climbing area you care about. But Your concern is not about trash, or poop, or destruction of plants. Your concern is that The size of cracks in sandstone changes with human’s climbing of them.

Tape or not. Crack gloves or not. This will happen. People multiplied by time on soft rock. This causes the consensus rating to change. It makes it harder for some people and easier for others. 
The crack has no concern about getting wider. 
A person with no preconception or expectation of a rating takes the challenge of the moment for what it is. 

Yeah, My ego was slightly annoyed that I actually had to actually work to climb Super Crack because as a woman with small hands it was cupped hands for me, but I never thought to be agitated because 50,000 people climbed it before me since the first ascent and made it bigger.   So, no, I can’t really get behind your campaign about tape gloves. But you are entitled to your opinion. 

bus driver wrote: Dude this is Utah. our politicians wont let any new rules be enacted that would result in environmental protections.  

Except IC is in BENM, so its federally managed. Feds love making rules.