Let's Stop Using the Slang Word For Carabiner

Dont worry guys I got this...

**AHHHEM**

As a Native Mexican since I was uhh... born,
I approve the word biner when refering to carabiners because I said so.

Brian in SLC wrote: If your partner is from the UK, you can always ask them if they have krabs...

If your climbing partner is from the UK, it's guaranteed they have krabs.

Marc H wrote:

Much more offense than “‘biner.”

agreed

So seriously, when I was growing up people still used words like Dago, Wop, Guinea, and Greaser to describe my heritage. It never bothered me because I somehow understood that people who used terms that were meant to be derogatory, must be themselves uneducated, inexperienced, unloved and unloving, and generally to be pitied.

phylp wrote: So seriously, when I was growing up people still used words like Dago, Wop, Guinea, and Greaser to describe my heritage. It never bothered me because I somehow understood that people who used terms that were meant to be derogatory, must be themselves uneducated, inexperienced, unloved and unloving, and generally to be pitied.

that's because you were raised in a era, where common sense was a lil more.... "common"

Big B wrote:

that's because you were raised in a era, where common sense was a lil more.... "common"

So you're saying "common sense" then meant being a racist jerk? And just "sucking it up" when you're the target of a racial slur?

NO Marc I'm saying that we all don't have to be so HURT, when someone is ignorant and you know it.
I was taught "its being the bigger person, or more mature, grown up, ...more educated" , whatever you want to call it. Pretty much exactly what Phylp said.
Self confidence in who you are. 

phylp wrote: Thanks for the interesting etymology lesson, Brian:

Carabiner Origin 1930s: shortened from German Karabiner-haken ‘spring hook’.

biner is a big improvement over anything that came out of 1930’s germany. 

petzl logic wrote:

biner is a big improvement over anything that came out of 1930’s germany. 

Hey, quite a few of my Jewish friends grandparents came here because of Tru..Hitler.

So yes it was effing unbelievable what happened, but the silver lining is I got to know many people (Franks, Grabows, Furmans, Shapiros, Schankowitz, Smeltzer, Lashkowicz) that I would have never met otherwise. My first kiss was Ms. Schankowitz   

Tim Lutz wrote:

Silver lining, dude, silver lining. Always look for the good.

Once again, entitled white males try to solve problems of other races.

Classic, all of you. 

petzl logic wrote:

biner is a big improvement over anything that came out of 1930’s germany. 

Except quantum mechanics.

5.Seven Kevin wrote:  problems

 

except there is no problem to solve here

Is this really a argument? We gonna change a country's name too bc it is one letter away from being offensive?

Carabinier = Krab
Locker = Lobster
Cam = Clam
Gumby = Guppie

Ya.

When they stop calling crackers - "crackers"...they refer to white bread as "non wheat" bread...and they start calling pizza with white sauce - "pizza"
then I will stop using words that offend others. Everyone is just so damn sensitive now. Almost been in a few fights when someone who is more tan than I am calls me a "cracka" and I call them a (not typing it on the forum) back. Sorry. You started it. I am just playing by your rules.

I am also going to start an "us-too" movement.

After all of this - I might be able to be run for president haha

Be mindful that many people may not even know there is a homophone to "beaner" (while, for example, "cracker" is a commonly known homonym/homophone to "cracker").

I try to use "biner" when I am only around people who know that I am referring to a "carabiner" but opt to say "carabiner" when others may be in earshot.

If someone I was climbing with didn't like the usage of "biner", I'd use "carabiner" or the more-specific "locker/nonlocker", because it's such a small thing to do to accommodate someone.

It had been a minute since we had an entertaining post in this forum. Glad to see it back on track.   

First world problem!

A couple years ago I was on a ledge with a young partner when, sick on meds, I barfed over the edge.

He said, "I've never been on a ledge with somebody vomiting before."

I said, "I guess you never roped up with a brit."

I wasn't going to tell him about the krabs,..

Andy Eiter wrote
If someone I was climbing with didn't like the usage of "biner" ...

If someone I was climbing with didn't like the usage of [an innocuous, commonly-used climbing term derived from the German word for mechanical spring that could only be interpreted as offensive by someone desperately wanting to be offended] 

...I would climb with someone else.