Climbing shoes

I am new to climbing and have just begun to get the gear required to do so, but I was wanting a few opinions on shoes with a wider width. One issue that commonly arises when purchasing any kind of shoe for myself is that I have unusually large wide feet for a woman. I can wear men sizes and most times that is what I resort to, but even still these shoes can sometimes be too narrow. What shoes would be suggested for a 10 1/2 wide in women's or a 9 wide in men's. I have read several websites that suggest certain brands, but these tend to be on the more expensive side as they are reviewing newer products and not some that might be found on sale.

Do you live somewhere you can try on shoes at a store? Ordering them online is a real crap shoot.

Yes we do I just didnt know if a particular brand would be a better start because they run wider. I try not to order online because I have big ass feet. LOL

Shoe widths run differently even in the same brand of shoes, for example La Sportiva Miuras and Katanas.  I agree with the post to go to a store and try them on.  There doesn't seem to to be any standard in climbing shoe sizing especially among brands and ever foot is different.  

most brands have wide and narrow models so that's not easy to say.  also entirely depends on what is carried at your local store.. ask the staff if they have recommendations for models they carry that are wide (if you're lucky, they'll actually know ! )

+1 for Evolv.  Most of their shoes are made for wide, high-volume feet.  Also, they use the same great rubber on their budget shoes like the nighthawk as they do on their high end performance shoes.  

Butora sells wide fit shoes.  I have not owned a pair, but have tried them on and they seem like decent shoes.

Fiveten fits wide feet and I heard scarpa does also. The shape of your foot is also a large factor, along with the last of the shoe. I recommend trying on a bunch of shoes and seeing which one fits your foot. I have a slight Morton’s for and I find that most fiveten shoes fit me the best. Sportiva does not.

Thanks for the tips and starting points. I will make sure to get the advice of a knowledgeable clerk hopefully, but if all else fails  I am only about an hour and a half from RRG. I can always use this excuse to go there. :) I have also been told that Miguel's staff is knowledgeable about climbing gear. Me and my fiance hike regularly at RRG and have just started looking into climbing, needless to say we are really interested and ready to go.

Also on another note is there a technical difference in laces vs straps?
Is this for better support on the ankle or foot bones?
Does it provide better dexterity on your toes? or heel? 

laces are often better at providing a long term fit.

there are more points of adjustment so the fit can be far more fine tuned than a strap system.

the tradeoff is that the majority of lacing systems take longer to put on/off than a strap system....  but some lacing systems are as fast as velcro (evolv Oracle, i love you)

This page has some great info about shoes that can answer most of your questions.
https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/rock-shoes.html

Another plus for laces is that they will be more durable and comfortable for jamming cracks, and you can always replace laces when they're worn out.

Thanks for the link. :) 

Scarpa tend to run wider, la sportivas newer shoes (kataki, skwarma, otaki) fit very wide, I have found evolv to generally fit pretty wide in the fore foot, as others have said allot of brands have a wide and narrow fit. Though seriously, just try on a bunch of different shoes width isn't everything when it comes to climbing shoes you may give up a comfy fore foot for a perfect heel or sweet edging performance. This might not be super applicable to you now but just remember you want your shoes to stay in place on your foot, you don't want to be swimming in your shoe. 

Most 5.10s feet my wider feet perfect. The black diamond ones are really narrow. And most other brands have some wide and some narrow. Evolvs have been pretty good too.

Colinda Venegas wrote: Thanks for the tips and starting points. I will make sure to get the advice of a knowledgeable clerk hopefully, but if all else fails  I am only about an hour and a half from RRG. I can always use this excuse to go there. :) I have also been told that Miguel's staff is knowledgeable about climbing gear. Me and my fiance hike regularly at RRG and have just started looking into climbing, needless to say we are really interested and ready to go.

Also on another note is there a technical difference in laces vs straps?
Is this for better support on the ankle or foot bones?
Does it provide better dexterity on your toes? or heel?

Be careful. Unless you’re at a specialized outdoors store (and no, REI doesn’t usually make the cut) your odds of finding a “knowledgeable clerk” are pretty slim. The guy at Miguel’s at RRG was pretty good last time I was there.

E Mann no offense, but could you just be polite and understanding of new people. Guess that's out of the question. I just had some questions and you just want to be an ass. 

Colinda Venegas wrote: E Mann no offense, but could you just be polite and understanding of new people. Guess that's out of the question. I just had some questions and you just want to be an ass. 

When asking questions on MP, be prepared for a mixture of helpful, hostile and sarcastic comments. I'm guilty of all three types! Just comes with the territory. 

Just gets tiresome seeing constant threads about shoes. Previous comment deleted, sorry I'm grumpy because I haven't been climbing enough.