Free Solo (spoilers)

Chad Hiatt wrote: Still doesn't say Women's forum on my phone, which is what I use 90% of the time.  Is there a way to block this forum?  I don't think I ever need to end up here again.  

Here is screenshot from my phone, I circled the part where it shows forum for the post

amarius wrote:

Here is screenshot from my phone, I circled the part where it shows forum for the post

This was covered earlier.  Read above.

Submitting a bug report to ask that the font size be reduced on the mobile app for the comment border.  Thanks for clarifying, Chad.

Didn't realize it was women's forum... I guess back to the men's forum  ;)

fossana wrote: Submitting a bug report to ask that the font size be reduced on the mobile app for the comment border.  Thanks for clarifying, Chad.

No problem.  It still stays "zero excuses for being a jerk", so at least that's covered for now.

nathanael wrote:

Yea just came back from the film. My takeaway was Sanni is the kind and relatable human in the movie. Alex comes of as a bit of an alien incapable of sympathy or emotion. His drive and dedication is of course admirable and inspirational, but he's also kind of an asshole.

It's possible he could be on the spectrum.

Saw the movie last night. Just want to say that I thought Sanni was freakin' AWESOME. 

Erica J wrote: I found the protrayal of her to be quite poor as well. My thoughts were basically, "Why would he date her, she's terrible,"
From a q&a I attended though, she was put in the film to make Alex more relatable and to essentially be the "common person we can relate to" since Alex is so different.

I thought Tommy Caldwell was the normal person who makes Alex more relatable. And the film crew. 

Sanni and Alex clearly have different priorities in life.  Doesn't mean either one is wrong, just means they have to figure out how to live with each other.  I saw the movie with a group of climbers and none of us thought she was portrayed negatively.  If Sanni and Alex both value the relationship then they'll figure out how to make space for each other, as they clearly already have.

Having sat with my girlfriend through the movie and her having the same view towards her SO soloing as they portrayed Sanni as having, I would say it is a fair portrayal of a concerned SO. I think the fact that they are still together and he says, "i love you" at the end speaks to the fact that they may butt heads on it, but they both want the best for each other in the end. If anything, the film makes Honnold look like a total sociopath and Sanni the concerned voice of reason who is getting dragged up climbs way outside her paygrade (seriously, simuling and the freeblast with a gumby?!).

Hey I know I'm not a woman but I'm just chiming in here to say I thought Sanni came off rather well. She is appropriately concerned for him and struggling with the knowledge that she can't demand priority in their relationship, which at the point we see it is still very young as compared with Alex's longtime goal of free soloing El Cap. And the accident is TOTALLY Alex's fault, in my opinion. She's a beginner and he's supposed to be teaching her.

If you watch interviews with Alex since the film came out, then you know that Alex is embarrassed at how callous he sounds in the movie when he tells her that he can't change his risk calculus for her. He feels shame when he watches it now, and he says that now their relationship is so much more serious, and her place in his life would definitely get more consideration if he had to make the same sort of decision now. 

Just FYI, Sanni climbs 5.12.  

I don't think the film treated her poorly at all! I was so impressed with how she handled being in a relationship with Alex, who is (for better or worse) completely single-minded when it comes to climbing. The scene that stuck with me the most is when she asks him something like (paraphrasing here) "Would me asking you not to do the climb affect whether you do it or not?" and he very simply says, "No."

Alex is honest about his goals. Any person in a relationship with him needs to be ok with his honesty and his goals. And the film portrays Sanni as exactly that person. Lots of people in a relationship with a person like Alex might just be like, "Nah, I need more commitment" and peace. But she 1) accepts the person that he is, and 2) shows him that he can be that person, AND be happy in a relationship. She actually says that in the movie: something like "You can climb AND be happy. I make you happy right? So why throw that away?"

Martin le Roux wrote: "Interesting how different people can see the same film and come away with completely different impressions. I thought that Sanni was treated very sympathetically. ..."

snobbit wrote: "Interesting! Because about 8 of the 10 people I saw the film with came out saying, "wow, she sucks" and then we talked about it and decided maybe the film didn't treat her well. I wonder how much of it was that climbers know that dropping someone is VERY BAD but nonclimbers might think, oh, accidents happen, it's a dangerous sport...?"

Interesting indeed. It is a documentary and the film did what it set out to do -- to document the main events around the main character during the 2 years of filming. I didn't think Sanni was portrayed unfairly. Question is why you think she "sucks" or see that she was portrayed as an "idiot" and treated like "shit." Could it be that you are too sensitive and overreacting? It's not a rhetorical question because I don't know the answer. I don't see it the way you did, so maybe there is something wrong with me.

P.S. The movie fascinated me, saw it twice already, and I was curious to read discussions on the movie. That's why I clicked on the thread link from the MP front page. Yeah, I didn't realize that this was on a "Women's Forum" either.  Almost forgot there is such a thing. Is there a "Men's Forum" as well?

Mei (pronounced as May) wrote: 
snobbit wrote: "Interesting! Because about 8 of the 10 people I saw the film with came out saying, "wow, she sucks" and then we talked about it and decided maybe the film didn't treat her well. I wonder how much of it was that climbers know that dropping someone is VERY BAD but nonclimbers might think, oh, accidents happen, it's a dangerous sport...?"

I didn't think Sanni was portrayed unfairly. Question is why you think she "sucks" or see that she was portrayed as an "idiot" and treated like "shit." Could it be that you are too sensitive and overreacting?

The original title of this thread was "Misogynist Jimmy Chin," (before the OP changed it) so that should help answer your question.

Andy Novak wrote: Just FYI, Sanni climbs 5.12.  

5.12 Granite trad lead or 5.12 red rocks gym grades?

John Clark wrote:

5.12 Granite trad lead or 5.12 red rocks gym grades?

Either is still better than me 

John Clark wrote:

5.12 Granite trad lead or 5.12 red rocks gym grades?

why, what's the difference?

Tim Lutz wrote:

why, what's the difference?

About 6 actual number grades

I thought the subplot of Alex and Sanni's relationship was nearly as entertaining as the climbing part of this movie. It seemed fair to both of them, and the movie did not sugar coat anything. They are both caring people, so it seems. Of course viewers must take any portrayal of their relationship with a grain of salt because only they know the entire story.

**Spoiler alert** The scene where they go shopping together to buy a refrigerator for their brand new home was one of the best parts of the movie IMO. It was very revealing about both of them,and quite funny as well.