Five Ten ... Adidas

FWIW I bought a pair of Anasazi Pinks 3 months ago and have put them through the wringer. Three days a week gym climbing with bad footwork plus 3 outdoor trips total.

They've held up fantastically. Rubber has worn down but is still usable. No noticeable bowing and the sole has maintained a nice rigidity for edging but gained enough flex for nice smearing. Otherwise no damage to the shoes beyond being a bit dirty.

I have heard not so great things about the Hiangle durability wise and I don't like the mocs but the Addidas era pinks seem great for durability.

Adidas has not changed the Hiangle. The Synthetic and normal Hiangle were all made the same way in the same factory. They are out of stock at the moment as they shift production.

Karsten Walker wrote: Adidas has not changed the Hiangle. The Synthetic and normal Hiangle were all made the same way in the same factory. They are out of stock at the moment as they shift production.

The regular leather HiAngle's are back in stock.  As for the synthetics I don't believe they will be added back into the shop from what I've heard from Adidas.

Ya, but I don't think the shoe has undergone any material or construction changes like the Quantum VCS and next year's lineup.

Karsten Walker wrote: Ya, but I don't think the shoe has undergone any material or construction changes like the Quantum VCS and next year's lineup.

Its possible but I have a hard time believing that. I had a pair of old hiangles (the kind that turn your feet blue) in size 10 and when they were new they fit tight but comfortable. I got a new pair of the just recently in size 10 and I can barely get my feet into them.

Keep in mind that they are hand made shoes and, as such, slight variations are to be expected.  Also, since the upper is leather, it does stretch, so you might be remembering it as it was after the break in.  I remember mine were a pain to get on and pretty tight when I first bought them, but then they stretched and conformed to be fairly comfortable.

I have had the opposite experience with the Hiangles. The old blue smurf feet style were noticeably tighter out of the box compared to the newer style in the same size (which I didn't have to wrestle my foot into and/or strain my back). Stacking the 2 models heel to toe I noticed the width was wider on the new model. This suits me just fine as I have a wide foot. Still loving these shoes.

Well I can confirm the HiAngle's I got from the new production batch do seem to run a bit smaller than the ones I got last November.

My newer moccs have held up great so far, feel the same to me. Ill see if I can dig up the production date.

Sam Miller wrote: My newer moccs have held up great so far, feel the same to me. Ill see if I can dig up the production date.

Does it have the new heel liner people have mentioned?  It seems like the new hiangle has a much more flexible velcro strap than the previous pair I owned.

Pat Schafer wrote:

Does it have the new heel liner people have mentioned?  It seems like the new hiangle has a much more flexible velcro strap than the previous pair I owned.

No liner

anna.gutwin wrote: https://soillholds.com/pages/press-release-shoes

Sang was probably finally out from under the thumb of Adidas for them to make that public.

caughtinside wrote:

Adidas finished getting rid of all the old higher level five ten employees, the whole operation will probably be moved offshore soon. They don't care about the climbing shoe line. Look how many MTB shoes they make. 

This is unfortuante. I rely on 5.10 for quality shoes in a wide last. 

Anyone know of other good manufacturers for wide/high volume feet?

Butora then Scarpa.

Five Ten lasts aren't that wide, they're tall.

Yeah, they tend to run narrow if anything in my experience.  They just aren’t as assymetrical/pointy as Sportiva.

ugh I guess five ten is going the way of the dodo

well at least Evolv has been making some good inroads with their shoes lately

I wonder if its C4 or HF

Looks like it days Hf in the lower right of the picture of the shoe stand.  Curious to see how these will be.