"Must Do" vs "To Do" routes

I have a HUGE list of To Dos...because any time I see a good review for a route, I'll add it. But it would be nice if I could isolate that list to a couple ones that I really want to do, like life goal routes, called "Must Dos" or something.

While you're at it, can we please get a "Don't Do" list. I keep looking at scary hard routes and thinking I want to do them, but then I remember that I don't want to die. It'd be nice to isolate that list, or maybe even remove it from MP entirely, so I don't get tempted by them.

I could also use a 'tick' category for "Fell but it wasn't really my fault", for now I'm just ticking it as a redpoint because close enough.

Could we just add a dick-measuring chart to people's pages? Just a simple length and circumference--and maybe approximate balls size in cubic inches? I think this would be more efficient and useful than the to-do list and tick list!

Lee, if you don't really want to do a route, why are you adding them to your TODO list?

If your problem is that you're adding more routes to your TODO list than you can realistically do, the solution to that problem is don't do that. Adding a "must do" list isn't going to solve your problem, because you can just put too many routes on that list, too.

If you just want a list of routes that people have reviewed positively, it's pretty easy to go to the route finder and filter by star rating. There's no need to maintain such a list manually yourself.

Gotcha. Guess this isn't a popular opinion. Oh well.

In case you're curious, this is how I was seeing this: if I roll up to the New and I'm just like "what should we get on this weekend?"--ya know, that thing that happens every time you go climbing--I can pull up the ToDo list and filter by the New and scroll through and make a decision then. So it's like a short term, I'm-already-here-and-just-need-to-pick-a-crag kind of thing.

The "MustDo" idea was more for bigger trip kind of routes. Like I want to do a route in the Tetons and Epinephrine and the Casual Route n shit. So I could sit down in January and be like "what route should I do this year?" and pull up that list and pick one that way.

BUT I GUESS I'M JUST DOING IT WRONG, EH?

i find sorting todo's by average stars will put the ultra classics at the top, whereas sorting by area will give me a list of stuff that i want to get on for a specific day trip.

i mostly keep a list of must-do's in my head because they are big objectives for the current year or next trip.

"Must Do" routes are those special gems that tickle something deeper inside you. You might gain some ideas for possible desires on a forum, but in my experience these routes need to be discovered for yourself, in a personal way—travel, explore, read books. A Must Do route is the line that calls to you as soon as you see it as you crest a ridge, and the thought, What's that? strikes through your mind like a lance; sure, the route has probably been documented and you can find info online, but it never called to you until it crossed your path in such a way and changed you—only then do you start to notice mentions of the route in fabled stories and you ponder in amazement how you never noticed anything about it until now. Suddenly, with each passing day, the climb increasingly seems to shadow all the perimeters of your life; it's everywhere and your thoughts have a harder time not thinking about it... This is a Must Do Route.

Lee Kennedy wrote: I have a HUGE list of To Dos...because any time I see a good review for a route, I'll add it. But it would be nice if I could isolate that list to a couple ones that I really want to do, like life goal routes, called "Must Dos" or something.

Perhaps it would be useful to have a comments section for "to do", as we do for ticks? If that also sorted, you could have anything you wanted to prioritize your lust list. Some of my to do stuff is meant to be with specific people, for example.

Actually, it would be nice to sort tick comments also. Same thing.

Best, Helen

Old lady H wrote:

Perhaps it would be useful to have a comments section for "to do", as we do for ticks? If that also sorted, you could have anything you wanted to prioritize your lust list. Some of my to do stuff is meant to be with specific people, for example.

Actually, it would be nice to sort tick comments also. Same thing.

Best, Helen

I can see kind of what you're getting at here and I think it's useful, but I think sorting by comments wouldn't work well. You probably want to "tag" it. For example you could tag something "with-frankps". I'd probably tag things stuff like "save-for-onsight" or "redpoint-this".

Chris Blatchley wrote: i find sorting todo's by average stars will put the ultra classics at the top, whereas sorting by area will give me a list of stuff that i want to get on for a specific day trip.

i mostly keep a list of must-do's in my head because they are big objectives for the current year or next trip.

Exactly. If it's something big enough in your mind to plan a trip around, you don't need a list to remind you.

For example I know I have to go back to Red Rock stronger because I've gotten spit off a few things there that I need to go back and beat (Unimpeachable Groping, Pork Chop--sprained my ankle on this one), and some big stuff that are life goals of mine (Epinephrine, Dark Shadows). And I have to go to Yosemite even though I've never been there, because I have to free climb Astroman eventually.

And there just aren't going to be that many of these. If there are, you're going to run into the same issue of having too many things on your list that you ran into with ToDos.