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Squatter Near climbing crag. Who to contact?

Canyon Charlie · · St. Vrain · Joined Apr 2018 · Points: 0

Only in a pinch here, so as that ye don't get the wrong idea - spell of snow and other inclement weather or dire situation and soforth - but it's surprisingly tender eatin' on a dog. Keep em in the canyon, I therefore say.

Andy Novak · · Bailey, CO · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 370

I'm surprised most folks here are so supportive of a squatter camp and a pile of trash. I've seen pristine and beautiful portions of the forest west of Boulder totally overrun and ruined by camps that look exactly like this. I would have already called the cops.  Boulder County Sheriff's non-emergent line: 303-441-4444.

Alan Coon · · Longmont, CO · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 350

@canyon Charlie- yo dude! Haha I meant no beef buddy. I’ll bring you a sixer and some Mac to as a peace offering! I’m impressed someone went to the length of creating a canyon Charlie account hahahahaha. 

Haha just trying to figure out the right thing to do for the climbing community. If the dude was just camping I could care less. It’s two large piles of trash right on a popular climbing trail that Makes me think twice. I don’t get sketched out by folks that squat just want to play nice with the parks department. 
Long Ranger · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2014 · Points: 669

South St. Vrain Canyon is marked as a place where camping is not allowed - as well as parking after dark,

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1666506,-105.4574818,3a,75y,82.07h,88.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s31LEDJzDUcKHYc7ZwqU_jQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

NF land is interspersed with private property, there's flood damage, there's some construction going on. It's kind of a tight squeeze in some places.

Billcoe · · Pacific Northwet · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 936

Walk a mile in their shoes and then leave them the F*** alone.

Bill Czajkowski · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 101

You could try leaving a note asking that the trash is disposed; failing that, then rat them out.

Doesn’t say much for enforcement when the trash appears visible from the road.

Long Ranger · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2014 · Points: 669
Billcoe wrote: Walk a mile in their shoes and then leave them the F*** alone.

I'm trying not to take sides, but it's a little more complicated than that. I could see residents of Lyons not wanting to deal with a fire in the canyon, having just dealt with rebuilding much of the town after a 500 year flood.

Franck Vee · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 260
Andy Novak wrote: I'm surprised most folks here are so supportive of a squatter camp and a pile of trash. I've seen pristine and beautiful portions of the forest west of Boulder totally overrun and ruined by camps that look exactly like this. I would have already called the cops.  Boulder County Sheriff's non-emergent line: 303-441-4444.

Pile of trash? I guess a man's trash is another's treasure. Seems to me like this stuff is kept well together. Yes it may not be quite a tidy a your red oak dinner table or your granite counter-tops, but to each their own...

slim · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2004 · Points: 1,093

it seems like their stuff is somewhat contained and relatively orderly. if this is the case i wouldn't bother them.

if there was a bunch of garbage strewn all over the place i would be less happy about the situation.

JD · · Southern AZ · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 95

You might try just talking to the person. Try being a human being to another human being instead of asking rando keyboard clickers their opinions.
Maybe the person has a need that you could fill or could help with. Maybe you have need that meeting this person would fill.

It's easy to hate on everything nowadays and seems shameful to love anything if you follow mainstream ideals.
Just saying ...it might go a long way to just start with a hello. 

Go Back to Super Topo · · Lex · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 285

Unless the situation may cause access issues just let them be. Seems like a way better place to be homeless than the city...

Alan Coon · · Longmont, CO · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 350

I stopped by the tent and no one was home. A lot of ass-umptions happening right now. 

Joe Petroske · · Bozeman · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 65

Hey folks I've been camping out in my tent in the woods, and its been peaceful. But lately, a bunch of people have been coming by with large backpacks full of ropes and carabiners and then making loud grunting noises all day. What can I do about this?

JonasMR · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2016 · Points: 6

Joe, try throwing some banana peels around.  As I understand it, these grunter types are allergic or something?  Anyway, it'll 'ruin their experience' and they won't come back.

Otherwise, get yourself a dog.

Trad Princess · · Not That Into Climbing · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 1,175

Canyon Charlie doesn't f*ck around, apparently.

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276

Enjoying the wilderness:

Eric Carlos · · Soddy Daisy, TN · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 141
Tradiban wrote:

Leave em be? Are they causing trouble?

Looks from the picture they are littering.

Bill Lawry · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 1,821

Looks like he or she is keeping a relatively tight camp.  Maybe next time leave something nice like some vino or green chili cheese bagels?

Dustin B · · Steamboat · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 1,335

Yes, in bum-world, that would be considered a tidy camp. However, this is the front range of Colorado, and anything less than sprinter=squatter.

Bill Lawry · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 1,821
Dustin B wrote: However, this is the front range of Colorado, and anything less than sprinter=squatter.

Reminds some of other inequalities regarding the use of public lands.

In the Seattle area and at least in the past, there are 'rich' schools that can manage to have organized group outings on forest service land because there is no specific fee for those outings; such events are "non-commercial" events in the lingo of the forest service.

But poorer schools, who don't have the extra general funds and so have to add a fee for such group outings, have their events fall into a 'commercial' category and so come under a whole bunch of other prohibitive constraints (e.g., fees, insurance).

Hopefully that has changed.

... but I digress.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Colorado
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