Why Do Some Climbers HATE Bouldering?

Senior Hernandez wrote:

It comes down to testosterone. 

Please do continue, but first explain Alex Puccio to all of us.

I think its about the focus.  Bouldering doesn't leave a lot of space for switching between being with the surroundings and seeing the next move.  It is all about the moves, all the time.  There's a oneness with the rock in front of you, but not a oneness with the big open spaces of the mountain and landscape.  I'm not sure folks hate it, just find it limiting.    

Sean Kelley wrote:

THIS!

ummmm.....no

JonasMR wrote:

I think its about the focus.  Bouldering doesn't leave a lot of space for switching between being with the surroundings and seeing the next move.  It is all about the moves, all the time.  There's a oneness with the rock in front of you, but not a oneness with the big open spaces of the mountain and landscape.  I'm not sure folks hate it, just find it limiting.    

climbing friend,

if you hate climbing and find it quite difficult and prefer pastoral natural scene, you may simply go hiking with your baby and your dog. 

jarthur wrote:

What are you going on about? Boulderers talk about the same $#it that everyone else is talking about. Women, men, food, training, cars, work, football, snowboarding, music, etc... You guys have decided to spotlight one 14 yr old beanie wearing, shirtless boulderer and act as if that represents the entire demographic of bouldering. The fact is on any busy night at the gym that represents less than 2% of the people actually bouldering. Hell, even The Spot doesn’t even represent that imaginary description of bouldering.

Carlo Traversi recently completed his own triple crown of climbing by doing Jade (V14), a 5.14 sport at 13,000-ft elevation and then the Diamond (5.11) in less than 24 hrs and had no trouble with those triggers on those little cammie things and he rarely sport climbs and doesn’t trad climb at all. 

I get it, you guys don’t like bouldering, but damn get off your pedestal about how trad climbing is so superior to the rest of the climbing world. Guess what no one cares that you desperately thugged your way up some lame offwidth at The Woo (because that place sucks), and no one cares that you pissed yourself on Snake Dyke in Yosemite last month.

One small correction, Carlo has been trad climbing for years, it was discussed on episode 137 of the enormocast. 

Aleks Zebastian wrote:

climbing friend,

if you hate climbing and find it quite difficult and prefer pastoral natural scene, you may simply go hiking with your baby and your dog. 

Surely looking around to take in all the scenery will help further develop my monstrous neck meat, no?

JonasMR wrote:

Surely looking around to take in all the scenery will help further develop my monstrous neck meat, no?

climbing friend,

no. 

there would not be enough resistanze unless your head it is quite massive and heavy or you snap your neck around quite violently with great force.

Lol.  Or she trains a lot...your masculinity is getting toxic. ;)

Senior Hernandez wrote:

I can assure you that she has more testosterone than you or I, don't worry bro, it doesn't make you less of a man. 

I'm not threatened by a woman who can climb better than I or is in better physical shape than myself. I met one, and she's the reason I started climbing in the first place. Your assumption is telling about your state of mind on this issue though. Best of luck with that.

Marcus wrote:

I'm not threatened by a woman who can climb better than I or is in better physical shape than myself. I met one, and she's the reason I started climbing in the first place. You're assumption is telling about your state of mind on this issue though. Best of luck with that.

It's also HIGHLY unlikely her test levels are anywhere close to yours. Women average between 1 and 50 ng/dl of test vs men's 300-1100 ng/dl 

And Alex is still pretty damn feminine. 

Kyle Elliott wrote:

It's also HIGHLY unlikely her test levels are anywhere close to yours. Women average between 1 and 50 ng/dl of test vs men's 300-1100 ng/dl 

And Alex is still pretty damn feminine. 

Wait... what Alex are you talking about?

Alex McKenzie wrote:

Wait... what Alex are you talking about?

Definitely you.

Alex McKenzie wrote:

Wait... what Alex are you talking about?

Bahaha.... Puccio. guess it would help to clarify.

Marcus wrote:

Definitely you.

-_-

jarthur wrote:

What are you going on about? Boulderers talk about the same $#it that everyone else is talking about. Women, men, food, training, cars, work, football, snowboarding, music, etc... 

Wait, there's the problem right there.... at least round VT,  I have never heard trad climbers talking about such things... our topics are pretty much just Bernie Sanders, pure grade A maple syrup, organic farming, hunting, telemark skiing. and yeah women and men. 

Mike Lane wrote: The only thing at work here is that flaming on boulderers is just so damn easy. Low hanging fruit, fish in a barrel, sneaking into a Special Olympics event, name your metaphor. Boulderers are like the goofy kid sitting at the front of the bus, just helpless against the taunts of the cool kids in the back. Between the 420 and typically just being young, ya'll are just easy targets. Notice no one fucks with Bob Horan. He's not a punk. The exceptional athletes in this sport do both climbing and bouldering well. But when your only talent is limited to bouldering, we just don't take you seriously; get some proud redpoints in and then you earn your way out of the taunting. Also, the lack of getting anywhere; and despite all the power moves you still are done in about 2 minutes is just not enough of a thrill or challenge for the vertically inclined.

lets just get one thing straight, there are no 'cool kids' in climbing. 

I bouldered on sat. it took 2 full raps with a 70m rope to get down ;)

Nick Goldsmith wrote:

I bouldered on sat. it took 2 full raps with a 70m rope to get down ;)

Next time just jump.

alex m. wrote:

lets just get one thing straight, there are no 'cool kids' in climbing. 

You stole my name!      

Alex McKenzie wrote:

You stole my name!      

climbing friend,

it is you who are stealing all up on my name! do not do it I am crushing on you your face! HYAH!

all your flash are belong to me.