Best Crag Pack??

What are the best crag packs around 40L?

https://www.trango.com/p-301-crag-pack.aspx

My personal favorite.  External mesh shoe pouch is a game changer.  I can fit rope, rack, extra layers, food, 3 liters of water...everything you could want.  Good suspension for what it is, rough and durable...and a good price too!  

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/113977454/whats-the-best-gear-pack-for-getting-all-your-stuff-to-the-crag

BD Creek 35 or 50 are both solid options.

If you can track down the older version of the Arcteryx Miura it is awesome - my all time favorite.  Otherwise I agree with the BD Creek 50.  

Will Maness wrote:

https://www.trango.com/p-301-crag-pack.aspx

My personal favorite.  External mesh shoe pouch is a game changer.  I can fit rope, rack, extra layers, food, 3 liters of water...everything you could want.  Good suspension for what it is, rough and durable...and a good price too!  

+1 I love my crag pack for trad.

Michael Hase wrote:

Anyone have insight to the new BD pack http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en/climbing-packs/crag-40-pack-BD681169_cfg.html#start=14

Just depends on what you're looking for.  I like having enough space to fit my rope inside, personally.  But this seems pretty nice too.

It's not marketed as a climbing pack but I really like my Osprey Kestrel 48. Big mesh pocket takes a pair of shoes, side zip (like on the Creek packs) lets you dump out all your shit, lots of places to clip extra stuff to, etc etc etc.

I'm a fan of the Trango pack as well.  Big, works well, side pockets are bomber.  Durable enough and cheap!

I like the BD packs with the pivoting hip belt.

Eric Angel wrote:

I like the BD packs with the pivoting hip belt.

One of the best packs I've ever owned was the BD octane. 

Noah Yetter wrote:

It's not marketed as a climbing pack but I really like my Osprey Kestrel 48. Big mesh pocket takes a pair of shoes, side zip (like on the Creek packs) lets you dump out all your shit, lots of places to clip extra stuff to, etc etc etc.

In my experience those packs meant for backpacking just don't work as well when carrying a heavy trad rack.  I know with my Osprey pack I was exceeding the recommended weight limit and you could really feel it.  The Trango Crag Pack distributes the heavy loads of my trad gear MUCH better.

I'm a big fan of the new Tendon Gear bag, I know that https://redcanyonropes.com has them cheap. Otherwise, the Metolius Freerider has always been great. For long approaches with lots of trad gear I usually go with my Osprey backpack. 

I love my BD pipe dream 45 pack.

I love the Metolius Crag station Pack. I’ve tried others but the cragstaion really works for me. 

What are the best crag packs around 40L?

( not that there's anything wrong with a new pack every few years)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          BUT                                                                                                                                                                                                         That Trango thing?  -oh please-  it is a two season back crapper, made to wear out  so that n0OBs  will then be looking to replace that  joke   It is a straight UP rip-off  of the only crag pack that your children will pass down to your grand-kidlets, that is, if you do't have yourown self stuffed in it upon death. Get yourself the real thing if you want it to be the beef,?                                                              you need to get an     ATOM SMASHER DELUXE !

from the link

DELUXE ATOM SMASHER
This kick ass bag has all the features of our regular Atom Smasher, plus an internal pocket and collar closure like our big haul bags.                                                                                          Nice unit. 

This is the one that gets a lot of use as a burly crag pack.2300 cu.in of space not including the collar.                                                                                                                                              The collar adds about another 800 cu.in.of stuffable storage.
$109.00 ea. Tan color.
To upgrade any Atom Smasher to the super burly 32oz fabric, add $12.00.
Super burly RBS fabric is available in Light Gray only. 

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CHEERZ   ta'  RUSS

& Cubbies fanz 

Will Maness wrote:

https://www.trango.com/p-301-crag-pack.aspx

My personal favorite.  External mesh shoe pouch is a game changer.  I can fit rope, rack, extra layers, food, 3 liters of water...everything you could want.  Good suspension for what it is, rough and durable...and a good price too!  

My personal experience with this pack is that it is not durable. I agree that the design is well done and really useful, but the materials and workmanship are lacking. Hence the low price. I've got a popped seam and numerous gouges in the black PVC coated material on the bottom. I don't expect it to last more than two of three seasons. 

Edit: My next pack will be a Black Diamond Creek 50. 

Patagonia crag daddy (45L). i can fit my full climbing setup in there, including double rack and 70m rope, with nice large pouches on the side. you can strap the rope on top too for extra space

Peter Yang wrote:

Patagonia crag daddy (45L). i can fit my full climbing setup in there, including double rack and 70m rope, with nice large pouches on the side. you can strap the rope on top too for extra space

That's a great pack; my wife and I each have one. Unfortunately, I don't think it's available any more. If you can find one, though, it's a great pack. Duffel-style opening, comfy straps and suspension.

Crag Daddy is good, but the problem with this type of pack is that when you lay your pack down to open, the back side (the side against your back) ends up against the ground. If the ground is a little bit wet or dirty, it'll go on your back.

I'm getting the BD Creek 50 when it goes on sale.

divnamite wrote:

Crag Daddy is good, but the problem with this type of pack is that when you lay your pack down to open, the back side (the side against your back) ends up against the ground. If the ground is a little bit wet or dirty, it'll go on your back.

I'm getting the BD Creek 50 when it goes on sale.

Yeah, that's the one downside. You definitely have to be careful where you set it down. The wide-open duffel style is sweet though.

My larger pack is the Mammut Trion Pro 50+7. On the surface, it's a more traditional top-loader, but the back panel (the panel against your back, between the shoulder straps) has a huge U-shaped zipper that opens the panel to access gear. You get similar wide-open access, without having to place the strap-side of the pack in the dirt. It also has an extendable brain, so if you don't cinch the top drawstring, you get an additional 7 L of space. It also has provisions to attach the rope externally.

OP, the 50+7 is considerably larger than what you asked for, but I know they also make a 35+7 version; it might be worth considering.

I also really like the mammut neon gear. For spring they have a new neon smart that is a bit smaller more for sport cragging but zips open completely flat.

The DMM Flight is also really well organized crag pack, its the perfect carry on size to fly with, I wish the shoulder straps and waist straps were a bit better but otherwise its awesome.