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DRusso wrote:

My guess is that Viperscale hasn't done or certainly hasn't climbed on DMT. 

+1000000 

Tim Lutz wrote:

Agreed. If you can stand, much less climb, on DMT, you are doing it wrong

I've not heard of it till this thread. For anyone else in the same boat......

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gkkpd/dmt-you-cannot-imagine-a-stranger-drug-or-a-stranger-experience-365

Tim Lutz wrote:

Agreed. If you can stand, much less climb, on DMT, you are doing it wrong

That was my thought. 

Even if you could why would you waste such a powerful experience with anything other than just experiencing it.

This is all assuming breakthrough doses, which for myself the only worthwhile way to do it.

Marc801 C wrote:

I've not heard of it till this thread. For anyone else in the same boat......

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gkkpd/dmt-you-cannot-imagine-a-stranger-drug-or-a-stranger-experience-365

I would assume most other people on MP are in the same boat.

I can tell you that DMT is a SUPER powerful experience. I have experienced both extremes of it. It can been completely terrifying, 100% elation, or a total lack of self. A breakthrough dose is an immediate come up into an experience something like 10-15 hits of liquid LSD. Luckily you don't have to ride the train for that long.

Getting high before climbing is aid! If you do it, you didn't send.   

/Troll off

Tim Lutz wrote:

There are some some watered-down synthetic analogs of DMT going aroung party/festival circuits these days that Viper may have experienced.

Lame.

WTF is the point!? There are much easier to obtain substances that are made for partying. The way I see it DMT is not for recreational use.

They call it wasted for a reason......

Always love hearing from the puritans on these threads...  no knowledge, lots of opinion.

Has anyone ever climbed on MDMA (ecstasy)? One drug I have never climbed on because I have heard having sex on it makes ever having sex not on it boring... so I kinda didn't want to do the same thing to climbing.

"All of my hardest redpoints have been while intoxicated on marijuana."

So all you do is sport climb, I am guessing.   Try leading trad while ripped out of your mind.  Maybe not the same thrilling experience.

Tim Lutz wrote:

#MPgold

E is only a bit removed from meth, so climbing on it would probably be fun, but one may run the risk of hugging a tree for a really long time

I think E is a totally different high than meth. I’ve taken E for years, and I was one and done w meth. Although E is meth based, it doesn’t have nearly the horrible comedown that meth does.

 Although, the tree hugging is probably gonna happen, I’d love to hear about the climb! As for now I’ll save the E for the nightlife, non cragging style. 

As far as climbing goes, I’m a regular herbalist, and maybe a bit of Irish coffee in the morn at the campsite. But, I try and keep it to a minimum at the crag. Having partners that know you’re competent no matter if you have a puff or not is imperative. If your track record is clean, then who gives a shit? In fact, if someone wasn’t cool w it, then chances are the partnership will fizzle. Oh well. 

Surround yourself with like minded partners, and I’m sure it will never be an issue. 

Russ Keane wrote:

"All of my hardest redpoints have been while intoxicated on marijuana."

So all you do is sport climb, I am guessing.   Try leading trad while ripped out of your mind.  Maybe not the same thrilling experience.

I was thinking the same thing. A 60' 5.12 with ten bolts while high is no big deal.

Flame on....... ;)

Woodson wrote:

As far as climbing goes, I’m a regular herbalist, and maybe a bit of Irish coffee in the morn at the campsite. But, I try and keep it to a minimum at the crag.

Why?

Surround yourself with like minded partners, and I’m sure it will never be an issue. 

Until one of you forgets something important, then it is...........wait, I think I answered my own question..... ;)

John Barritt wrote:

Why?

Until one of you forgets something important, then it is...........wait, I think I answered my own question..... ;)

Well John, I don’t want everyone smoking my stash ;) minimum is a vague term. What were we forgetting? A lighter? A piece? Apples work great! Users lose drugs...

ViperScale . wrote:

Has anyone ever climbed on MDMA (ecstasy)? One drug I have never climbed on because I have heard having sex on it makes ever having sex not on it boring... so I kinda didn't want to do the same thing to climbing.

For someone with so much experience, you seem easily susceptible to hearsay.

Mark Says wrote:

For someone with so much experience, you seem easily susceptible to hearsay.

I have only done psychedelic drugs outside of alcohol... and this hearsay is stuff I have heard people I know who have done it.

ViperScale . wrote:

I have only done psychedelic drugs outside of alcohol..

ummm....didnt you say you had climbed on DMT, LSD, and mescaline upthread?

grog m aka Greg McKee wrote:

Why? You spend more time living life in an altered state than in reality. Is being high all the time really worth it? I get that people use various vices for multitudes of reasons (everything from coffee to weed) but when you are 'altered' more than in reality you really should question the state of your life.

What is the purpose of saying this? Makes you sound very entitled. Sorry, not sorry? Come on. 

I save the drinking for after.

Weenie

Mike Brady wrote:

ummm....didnt you say you had climbed on DMT, LSD, and mescaline upthread?

You do know that all 3 of those are psychedelic drugs right?

You know weed is technically a mild psychedelic drug as well right?

Woodson wrote:

Well John, I don’t want everyone smoking my stash ;) minimum is a vague term. What were we forgetting? A lighter? A piece? Apples work great! Users lose drugs...

You know how when you're high and walk out to the car and you get there and you're like......"Now what did I come out here for?" 

Then you go back in the house and you're like "Oh yeah! My laptop!" Then you walk back out there to get it going "Laptop, laptop, laptop".....all the way there........ ;)

Same thing, except with belay stuff.......like forgetting to catch your biner after poking a bight thru your atc and backing off, or messing up while at the chains.....

It's a buzz-kill when your buddy decks beside you........but at least you can burn a fatty while you wait for the SAR........ ;)