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joe trabucco · · Boulder, co · Joined Feb 2017 · Points: 0

Anyone know the most comprehensive voo guidebook available?

Thanks

Dan Cooksey · · Pink Ford Thunderbird · Joined Jan 2014 · Points: 365

I believe that would be "the Voo" .

Christina kalb · · Boulder, CO · Joined Apr 2008 · Points: 962
rkrum · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 61

Kelman's book is probably the most useful. Oren-whatever's book has more content. Including more sport routes, more routes in the outlying areas, more incorrect gear beta, and more incorrect general information. I actually thought his approach info was pretty decent though.

Edit: I guess instead of "approach info", I should have specified that he took a lot of good close up photos of most crags, making it really easy to pick out routes once you're there.

trice Rice · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2014 · Points: 0

"the voo" is a terrible guidebook IMO. almost no beta on pitch length. almost no beta on gear needed. basically no approach description besides a shitty map. I was pretty disappointed when I first used it. It does look nice and have a cool name though. 

Big DogBurlyDiesel · · COLORADO · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 516

Pretty much reiterating past comments. Kelman's Book has better maps and overall I like the book better. "The Voo" has newer route info and an interesting layout that catches the eye but some of the beta, grading, book organization, and maps lead to confusion. I use all these guides when going to Vedauwoo and between Kelman's book, The Voo, Vedauwoo Bouldering Guide, and Mountain Project I still get turned around at times an wonder wtf is going on. At some point you'll have to except that fact that you will be taking your gear for a walk if you want to venture away from popular main areas. Good Luck, and have fun. Vedauwoo is a special place.

rob.calm · · Loveland, CO · Joined May 2002 · Points: 630

I’m the author of the older guidebook so take anything I say with a grain of a salt. This is not intended to be a criticism of Voo, a book with many fine features, it’s just a statement of facts.  And thanks for the comments about “Rock Climbing at Vedauwoo, Wyoming”.

The assertion that “Voo” contains more routes the “Rock Climbing at Vedauwoo” is not true. Reading through both books, I found 149 routes in my book that are not in “Voo” and 107 routes in “Voo” that are not in my book. If you find this surprising, so did I.  

The Voo book is more comprehensive for the sport climbs at Browns Landing as well it should be since the Voo  authors are the  principal developers of the area. My book is very weak for this area. Also, they cover the Maze, which is absent from my book. For many new climbers who are looking for sport climbs, the Voo book is the way to go.
On the other hand, the Voo book does not contain such historical areas as East Corner, West Corner, Boat Rock and more recently developed areas such as Bunker and Party Land and has missed many routes in the Citadel area and the central areas.

Rob.calm

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Colorado
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