Boulder, CO climber moving to East Coast

Michael Schneider wrote:As for all that Red Sox V's Yankee territory stuff? I climb all baseball season & I am not a fan of game sports anymore other than in ( occasionally required ) casual social pass-time.

well it's not just territory. It's kinda a personality indicator. Will they be a masshole or a NYC-hole. I always go Beantown. :o)

This is hilarious. Watching from my front porch at 5280 about which part of the Northeast is worse. Good ole East coast banter.

WTylerOsborne wrote:Really good research there bud. Charlotte was the 8th busiest airport in the US back in 2015 in terms of passengers and it has expanded even more since. Boston was 17th and Baltimore was 22nd. In fact the only NE airport that beat it was JFK. Great job with your research bud.

In other words you're saying.....
"Whaaaaaa! The bad man on the internet just called my home airport dinkey! Whaaaaa! My shorts are all bunched up! That was mean! Whaaaaaa! I'll show him!!!! Your research sucks!!! There! I'm so superior!"

Child, chill out.

Marc801 wrote: In other words you're saying..... "Whaaaaaa! The bad man on the internet just called my home airport dinkey! Whaaaaa! My shorts are all bunched up! That was mean! Whaaaaaa! I'll show him!!!! Your research sucks!!! There! I'm so superior!" Child, chill out.

K

Marc801 wrote: In other words you're saying..... "Whaaaaaa! The bad man on the internet just called my home airport dinkey! Child, chill out.

You may be a lot of things, but you definitely ain't a "bad man".

Y'all so shook you can't even be honest about what you're talkin' about. It's ok, time will tell. Can't hide forever.

;)

FWIW, a MA plate gets a similar reaction (treatment) in VT/NH/ME as does a CO plate in UT/WY... Massachusetts is the Colorado of New England, and Colorado is the Massachusetts of the Rockies. I guess the resentment is inevitable when denizens of big urban population centers travel to the neighboring more rural sparsely populated states (e.g. CA to OR/ID/NV). For some reason, NY plates don't get that reaction...

doligo wrote:FWIW, a MA plate gets a similar reaction (treatment) in VT/NH/ME as does a CO plate in UT/WY... Massachusetts is the Colorado of New England, and Colorado is the Massachusetts of the Rockies. I guess the resentment is inevitable when denizens of big urban population centers travel to the neighboring more rural sparsely populated states (e.g. CA to OR/ID/NV). For some reason, NY plates don't get that reaction...

It's not the location as much as the attitude that infects many from said locations. I mean, there's a reason for terms like Masshole and Colorado BroBrah.

doligo wrote:FWIW, a MA plate gets a similar reaction (treatment) in VT/NH/ME as does a CO plate in UT/WY... Massachusetts is the Colorado of New England, and Colorado is the Massachusetts of the Rockies. I guess the resentment is inevitable when denizens of big urban population centers travel to the neighboring more rural sparsely populated states (e.g. CA to OR/ID/NV). For some reason, NY plates don't get that reaction...

I thought it was Texas plates on Colo.

doligo wrote:FWIW, a MA plate gets a similar reaction (treatment) in VT/NH/ME as does a CO plate in UT/WY... Massachusetts is the Colorado of New England, and Colorado is the Massachusetts of the Rockies. I guess the resentment is inevitable when denizens of big urban population centers travel to the neighboring more rural sparsely populated states (e.g. CA to OR/ID/NV). For some reason, NY plates don't get that reaction...

everyone in all the other 49 states is suspect and resentful of NY plates

T Roper wrote: everyone in all the other 49 states is suspect and resentful of NY plates

And New Yorkers.

doligo wrote:FWIW, a MA plate gets a similar reaction (treatment) in VT/NH/ME as does a CO plate in UT/WY...

They are completely different, IMO. MA drivers just tend to drive like assholes; worse than any other states I've ever visited.

doligo wrote:For some reason, NY plates don't get that reaction...

I'd think NY plates get plenty reactions, but maybe not from the actual driving. I've no experiences w/ the other boroughs or upstate NY, but in my limited experiences I've always found Manhattan drivers to be quite civil (not slow) compared to drivers from other large cities.

T Roper wrote: everyone in all the other 49 states is suspect and resentful of NY plates

Not to mention American Samoa and the other territories.
It just comes naturally.

Gunkiemike wrote: I thought it was Texas plates on Colo.

If you stay away from 14s, jeep roads and skiing in Vail, you could generally avoid Texans in CO while recreating outdoors.

Having traveled 65% of the time from NYC and DFW at different times, I would offer a counterpoint. Travelling via east coast airports is much more involved than travelling from the DEN.

Boston, DC, NYC and Philly can be covered Amtrak with so flights very well if you live near and Amtrak stop (New York Penn, New Rochelle, Philadelphia, Stamford and Newark if you are comfortable with Newark Penn).

The Gunks and Rumney are both very crowded much more so that front range crags near Denver and Boulder but they both offer easy approaches.

Queens, NY is about 1.5 hours from the Gunks and 3.5 hours from Rumney as well as less than 30 minutes to NY Penn and JFK and less than 10 minutes to LGA.

From JFK and LGA you can get direct flights everywhere. The only comparable east coast airports of Charlotte and Atlanta. BOS and PHL are not even close.

In Queens you will also be near the beach which in August is on the east coast is pretty sweet. Any beach north of Cape Cod (and out of the jet stream) is very cold.

Purely from a life style perspective, Boston or Cambridge may be more similar to Denver/Boulder. Although the levels of in-migration to Denver massively exceed those to the Boston MSA, you will not have the feeling that you are one of many arriving to make your way.

NYC is massively more expensive and Queens is less so but still more expensive the Denver/Boulder.

Good luck...don't estimate travel time to airports or time to pass TSA even with pre-check...have fun living out the 'where would I move' fantasy.

doligo wrote: If you stay away from 14s, jeep roads and skiing in Vail, you could generally avoid Texans in CO while recreating outdoors.

And wolf creek or CB, but who wants to do that?

My suggestion of the nicest place to live that meets your work requirements, has great access to climbing and many other recreational opportunities, and has a vibe/culture similar to Boulder is the Portsmouth, NH area. It's roughly an hour to Boston Logan (and there is a really sweet bus that runs directly from Portsmouth to the airport). There are great restaurants, coffee shops and cultural opportunities. It's right on the coast with easy acccess to Maine (literally 2 minutes) and it's expansive coast. It's 30-45 minutes to Pawtuckaway, less to Stonehouse Pond, an 1 and 45 minutes (or less) to Rumney and 1.5 hours to North Conway (Cathedral, Whitehorse, etc). Plus you're about the same distance to many of the Massachusetts crags as you would be if you lived in Boston. The weather is a bit more mild because of the coast, with warmer winters and cooler summers. There are three climbing gyms within an hour radius. The downtown area is really cool and it's one of the most classic New England towns in my opinion. (Great breweries as well, which may be a necessity coming from Boulder.)

I live most of the year in Telluride, Colorado and spend the Fall (and sometimes more) in New Hampshire. My family lives in Dover (next town over from Portsmouth) and I absolutely love the area. Having also lived in Boulder for two summers, I would favorably compare Portsmouth to there, though it certainly is a bit smaller. If you can live and work remotely, why not live somewhere really cool and different?

Christian Prellwitz wrote:My suggestion of the nicest place to live that meets your work requirements, has great access to climbing and many other recreational opportunities, and has a vibe/culture similar to Boulder is the Portsmouth, NH area. It's roughly an hour to Boston Logan (and there is a really sweet bus that runs directly from Portsmouth to the airport). There are great restaurants, coffee shops and cultural opportunities. It's right on the coast with easy acccess to Maine (literally 2 minutes) and it's expansive coast. It's 30-45 minutes to Pawtuckaway, less to Stonehouse Pond, an 1 and 45 minutes (or less) to Rumney and 1.5 hours to North Conway (Cathedral, Whitehorse, etc). Plus you're about the same distance to many of the Massachusetts crags as you would be if you lived in Boston. The weather is a bit more mild because of the coast, with warmer winters and cooler summers. There are three climbing gyms within an hour radius. The downtown area is really cool and it's one of the most classic New England towns in my opinion. (Great breweries as well, which may be a necessity coming from Boulder.) I live most of the year in Telluride, Colorado and spend the Fall (and sometimes more) in New Hampshire. My family lives in Dover (next town over from Portsmouth) and I absolutely love the area. Having also lived in Boulder for two summers, I would favorably compare Portsmouth to there, though it certainly is a bit smaller. If you can live and work remotely, why not live somewhere really cool and different?

This is a great suggestion

trice Rice wrote:Hey guys, I got offered a new position in my company (boulder based) to be a remote employee on the east coast. The only requirement is that I live near a major airport preferably between Baltimore and Boston. I wanted to get some input on where you think the best place on the east coast is to move? I am moving from Boulder, so I understand that I won't find anywhere that has as much climbing as readily available. Seeing as I have never lived outside of an hour radius of Boulder, this would also be a major change for me. I also love trail running, so being near trails would be a major + for me. I was thinking NYC maybe? Try and live near a park for trail running and hopefully get to the gunks on the weekend? Are there better east coast cities similar to Denver (20 minute drive to great climbing/trails) that I am not thinking about? Any thoughts?

(Snark removed) has The OP checked in?

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Honestly, you should look into Harrisburg, PA. They have an international and are only about two hours from NYC and Baltimore, and about an hour from Philly . In the recreation department, there's tons of bouldering at Mt. Gretna and Governor's Stables, along with climbing at Safe Harbor and various other crags. It's only about 3.5-4 hrs from Seneca, 5 hrs from the New, and maybe 3 hrs from New Paltz. The Dack's are in good range for a long weekend, plus much more local exploration is to be found in Pennsylvania, particularly in the west. Case in point, as I type this I am planning to explore three different crags tomorrow that appear to be completely untouched. I've spent more time developing climbing areas and getting permissions than I have spent grade chasing. Finally, within 1.5 hrs there are, by my best guess, about 8 State Forests and at least a dozen state parks, which make for hundreds of trails and incredible scenery, including Cherry Springs State Park, the second International Dark Park, at 3 hrs away.

hey i moved to new haven, ct from boulder about a year ago.. the transition was... definitely a big one. but there is some solid community here. the trap-rock ridges allow for trad year round, there is a bit of sport, and bouldering throughout the state. some variety of rock too. as has been stated there are some great options such as rumney, farley, and the gunks within an easy drive. from New Haven getting to multiple airports is a quick drive and the "city" has a solid pulse with some more diversity than Hartford. lots of trails to run and its a semi-bike friendly city (nothing like the boulder bike trails) check out the east rock neighborhood. its super bike friendly and sits along the east rock state park w/ running trails. or westville neighborhood which is walking distance from west rock state park which is home to some sport climbing, mostly slabby and definitely not the best in the state but its always nice to have something walking distance from home.

good luck finding your new home!