How comfortable are you at your max solo grade?

Andrew Wood wrote: when did he hurt himself? you have a little derp on your negative nancy

Where did I say he hurt himself? I said "...it would be cool if he doesn't hurt himself", meaning I hope his soloing is injury (and death) free.
Maybe put aside the pitchfork for a bit?

tomallen112190 wrote: To spare us an argument, I'll agree to disagree if you will; to me it has very much to do with feelings and I'm sure there are plenty of arguments for both our opinions... Of course I've taken falls and it's pretty terrifying. As you can see from these two pictures I own my mistakes. mountainproject.com/v/11176… mountainproject.com/v/11176…. The picture you referenced of mine was a toprope setup my friend put up on headstone and was wrong, sure, but we make mistakes and learn and move on. We all assume the risks. Now if you care to critique anymore, I'm open to you sir. Anything to help me improve. Seb, I too like to solo and try to take in the whole atmosphere of the climb, not just get to the top. I heard one of the guys in the film Valley Uprising say it's not about getting to the top, but it's about how you get there, or something to that effect.

I see it is for educational purposes. I'll make sure to watch Valley Uprising. Maybe it will make me a better climber or at least recognizing one.

Jared Suppo wrote:I kinda disagree with most of the go pro comments I climb with a go pro for my first ascents and use it as a log pretty much and as a personal guide so I can study the climb and know where all the holds are so next time I want to climb it I can do it clean and have fun with it. But I don't use a go pro to boost my ego and show people it and I wouldn't tape my solo because I'm doing it for my self re watch your video sab and watch around the 1min 19second mark and study study study I don't spread hate and you're going to do what you want I'm just like you I'm not religious so I can't say I'll pray for you but I hope you don't fall and have a fun amateur rock climbing career without death!

m8, i don't slip on the traverse, or look over to see the guys on the ground i dunno wtf yyou think you are seeing but hte traverse went fine, i my foot actually slips about about a centimeter 2 meters off the ground, despite what everyone seems to think, a slip of the foot will not send you plummeting to your death.

youtube.com/watch?v=uQb4_8P…
Feet slip, you're not guaranteed death.

The very 'Alex situation' I was referring to. Problematic. Soloing really isn't a 'trickle down' sort of deal and most climbers, particularly beginning and intermediate climbers should really refrain altogether and attempt to suppress such unnatural desires.

Where is Aleks Zebastian when you need him...?

Don't a thing or you will die. You are underdeveloped premature cripple permababy. Humans are not capable of living. Buy my iron lung for cheap, take seminar on how to plug in wall. Let us sit in room and applaud, we will much progress, no more die. Try a paleo diet to nutrient while you democracy with fellow mob members. Human centipede is the only way, you must conform or I will make sure you die, YOURE GOING TO DIE

Yeah, I have a wife and kids...not soloing. Ever.

I've only met one climber who started climbing by soloing. He didn't know what the hell he was doing, just heard about soloing and thought "that's rock climbing!" He was doing crazy, traversing routes at a local crag while wearing those five finger shoes in no time. It was interesting to hear what he got up to in that phase of blissful ignorance.

Once he discovered roped climbing and more of the established practices, he backed off the high risk course he initially went for.

If you're a solo person, you are a solo person. I say go for it if that's your thing, screw everybody else and their opinion. Me? I'm not a soloist. No reason to piss in your pie about it though.

Ted Pinson wrote:Yeah, I have a wife and kids...not soloing. Ever.

you better wear a helmet and use double ropes or you will die and your wife and kids will sad

"If ya say you didn't slip then will say ya didn't slip" but you are not Alex Honnald my friend and will never be or will ever come close and that's just the truth Alex is one of the best climbers ever. Alex also isn't ignorant about climbing he doesn't solo a climb that he doesn't know like the back of his hand and his climbs are way harder and loner then yours but you you are climbing and don't know where any of the grips are and are frantic searching for them a lot of the time am I the only one that noticed the slip?

Colonel Mustard wrote:No reason to piss in your pie about it though.

I agree. If you don't like his soloing that's fine, but do you need to go on the attack? Seems like a guy who is excited about climbing and wants to share it. I think he shows some talent too, you think Alex Honnold never gets gripped on a climb?

Rick Blair wrote:...you think Alex Honnold never gets gripped on a climb?

He talked about that a bit in the interviews after his trifecta solo - specifically the 5.12 friction crux on the last pitch of Half Dome RNWF.

Jared Suppo wrote:"If ya say you didn't slip then will say ya didn't slip" but you are not Alex Honnald my friend and will never be or will ever come close and that's just the truth Alex is one of the best climbers ever. Alex also isn't ignorant about climbing he doesn't solo a climb that he doesn't know like the back of his hand and his climbs are way harder and loner then yours but you you are climbing and don't know where any of the grips are and are frantic searching for them a lot of the time am I the only one that noticed the slip?

My dad can beat up your dad

Colonel Mustard wrote: If you're a solo person, you are a solo person. I say go for it if that's your thing, screw everybody else and their opinion.

I've done a fair amount of soloing and nothing about this thread or its premise feels right to me and it's not soloing I have an issue with.

we've got a class of 35 students, we need to find a way to teach all of them at the same time. Darn educators are running scarce these days, lets just send some kids to college and call that experience.

Jared Suppo wrote:"If ya say you didn't slip then will say ya didn't slip" but you are not Alex Honnald my friend and will never be or will ever come close and that's just the truth Alex is one of the best climbers ever. Alex also isn't ignorant about climbing he doesn't solo a climb that he doesn't know like the back of his hand and his climbs are way harder and loner then yours but you you are climbing and don't know where any of the grips are and are frantic searching for them a lot of the time am I the only one that noticed the slip?

You missed the point, my point is a small slip is probably not fatal, also you clearly have no idea about the shit Mr Honnold gets up to, getting lost on route, on sight soloing piles of choss, rapping in for hold inspection on a 5.12 then proceeding to solo it. Sir i am no where near the skill of Alex but don't think that Alex is some paranoid soloist (is there such a thing) who rehearses the moves over and over again on a 5.12 he has decided to solo.
Also Jared, do i have to climb like Ondra to use him as an example of good technique? Do i need to be able to be a F1 driver to drive 40mph around a corner? I didn't think so.

that guy named seb wrote:Do i need to be able to be a F1 driver to drive 40mph around a corner? I didn't think so.

No, but you're way more likely to get killed going 40mph than an F1 driver doing 140, particularly if you're adjusting your gopro and posting to MP while you're at it.

Ignorance at its best there. I hope your ignorance and show boating for your friends on climbs you don't know doesn't catch up to you but it seems like it will

Jared Suppo wrote:Alex also isn't ignorant about climbing he doesn't solo a climb that he doesn't know like the back of his hand and his climbs are way harder and loner then yours but you you are climbing and don't know where any of the grips are and are frantic searching for them a lot of the time am I the only one that noticed the slip?

Yeah, actually he does...all the time. Not his ridiculous big wall solos, but he's definitely onsight soloed some pretty gnarly shit.

Healyje wrote: I've done a fair amount of soloing and nothing about this thread or its premise feels right to me and it's not soloing I have an issue with.

Cool beans. I'm probably talking past you, I haven't been following this thread that closely, just flapping my gums really. You know, important internet stuff.

Ted Pinson wrote: Yeah, actually he does...all the time. Not his ridiculous big wall solos, but he's definitely onsight soloed some pretty gnarly shit.

All the interviews I have seen of him he says he never onsight solos anything that is well below what he can climb. Alot of the hard things he soloed he talks about having done a TON of times before soloing.