How comfortable are you at your max solo grade?

Seb I think you should consider reevaluating why you climb. It does seem this game will only end one way if you keep playing it.

Do what you want, but that video was quite concerning. It's not the soloing. It's the mentality.

Healyje wrote:Yeah, this is getting more fucked up by the post. Didn't know what passed for young and dumb in the age of the gopro (and I don't mean soloing), but this pretty much eliminates all doubt. You might want to reconsider your relationship to climbing and social media and your motivation for both.

Why is it as soon as i want to strap a go pro to my head it's suddenly my only motivation?

Jared Suppo wrote:Seb about 1.20 into the video you almost ate shit and died boosting for the camera and looking over at the crowd to see who's watching is going to make you kill yourself climb safe and spread piece and love!

I'm looking at my hands at 1.20, and don't look or talk to the people below until i'm at the massive flake.

Rob Gordon wrote:Seb I think you should consider reevaluating why you climb. It does seem this game will only end one way if you keep playing it. Do what you want, but that video was quite concerning. It's not the soloing. It's the mentality.

what mentality?

I See you took the video down but your right foot definitely slipped from its hold about 1.20 into the video where you where making your way across the face with a super sketchy crimp you almost went down.

Well, Seb certainly is getting all the attention he's seeking. Mission accomplished, Seb.

there's a guy here in town, almost a foot shorter than me who I see every once and awhile rope soloing. He told me about when he was a kid he would get stoned and free solo some hard stuff. he pointed out a 5.12 I would probly die on with a rope and said he used to climb that one easy.

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TRIGGER WARNING: VIOLENCE AGAINST SHEEP
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that guy named seb wrote: Why is it as soon as i want to strap a go pro to my head it's suddenly my only motivation?

Because you put the video on-line and made sure people knew about it and saw it.

that guy named seb wrote:what mentality?

That of an attention whore.

WOW the guy who need to relpy to every thread on MP to tell eveyone how badass he is and let everyone knw how hard he climbs for how long is calling somebody and attention whore?!?!? LOL!!! Why the fuck do you care if the dude solos or not or how sketchy he is what does it matter to you? Whats your motivation? Why do you care anyway? just jelous? People can not watch the vid if the dont want to and you dont have to either.

I think its not Mark801 I think its MarkAintNoFun go mind your own business!!!

He asked for peoples' opinions.

Marc801 wrote:He asked for peoples' opinions.

is your other account Rob T? or is that your gay lover? you two seem like peas in a pod when it comes to spraying hate on a forum devoted to all things climbing

Seb,

I liked your video a lot. The horses munching grass in the background is priceless and the rock looks fantastic.

As far as you using the "C" word (female genetalia), I don't find it offensive at all, maybe just vulgar but that does not necessarily stand out on Mountain Project.

Please evaluate your motivations for stuff like this, in my opinion, without the go-pro, this may have never happened.

I'm a relatively new climber. My friends and I comfortably lead sport routes between 5.6 and 5.9 and I'm slowly building a trad rack. I really love to free solo though. I'm not suicidal or stupid so I guage the climb by how I'm feeling that moment. Today I was jumping around JTNP and just wasn't feelin' it so I did a bunch of scrambling instead. Other days I feel like a champion and run up a 5.5 or better. IMO, It shouldn't be about the grade, but about the adventure. I love being outdoors and that should be why any of us do this.

Rick Blair wrote:Seb, I liked your video a lot. The horses munching grass in the background is priceless and the rock looks fantastic.

tomallen112190 wrote:, but about the adventure. I love being outdoors and that should be why any of us do this.

Andrew Wood wrote:you two seem like peas in a pod when it comes to spraying hate on a forum devoted to all things climbing

What hate? I disagree with Seb's attitude about soloing (as do others in this thread), not that he's soloing. I just think it would be cool if he doesn't hurt himself.

that guy named seb wrote:Why is it as soon as i ...

Not really sure there is much point in attempting an explanation other than to say it's not about the soloing even though such threads are a clear downside of 'this Alex situation'. And other than making the obvious 'Seb is dead' reference, it all kind of boils down to something somewhere between these gems...

"Donny, you're out of your element!"

“Shut the f*ck up, Donny!”

Marc801 wrote: What hate? I disagree with Seb's attitude about soloing (as do others in this thread), not that he's soloing. I just think it would be cool if he doesn't hurt himself.

when did he hurt himself? you have a little derp on your negative nancy

tomallen112190 wrote:I'm a relatively new climber. My friends and I comfortably lead sport routes between 5.6 and 5.9 and I'm slowly building a trad rack. I really love to free solo though. I'm not suicidal or stupid so I guage the climb by how I'm feeling that moment. Today I was jumping around JTNP and just wasn't feelin' it so I did a bunch of scrambling instead. Other days I feel like a champion and run up a 5.5 or better. IMO, It shouldn't be about the grade, but about the adventure. I love being outdoors and that should be why any of us do this.

Did you ever fall while leading? better yet broke a hold and fell. Shit happens that has nothing to do with how you feel

PS I hope you climb better that you use quickdraws or you photo is to educate us how not to use quickdraws mountainproject.com/v/11176…

I appreciate all your concern but one of my friends asked me to do it again so he could video it, chances are i'm probably going to do it for him and just get the sequence dialed in. Please bear in mind before you all freak out about me doing it for the wrong reasons, i have been soloing for about as long i have been climbing i got a gopro about 2 weeks ago, all the gopro has done is allow me to share my experience not motivate me to solo (if you have seen my other abysmal attempts to share my climbing through video you will get what i mean), i think really long and really hard before any committing solo and I only will commit if I feel secure and happy at the grade, i have no intention of pushing my self to solo harder or more frequently my soloing psyche goes for the moment,
back to my 5.9 moonraker
climb and asses a 5.10b on the same cliff as my 5.9 it's looks awesome and super exposed, if i am really psyched for it and feel comfortable with the climbing and the quality of the rock i MIGHT solo it.
Go to scotland and solo "the long climb" 5.7 and have a look at some other big routes.(probably wont even happen this year)
Every single one of these solo interests have been rattling around in my head for about 7 months, so please don't think now i have a gopro i'm going to go and kill my self soloing for the camera.

I kinda disagree with most of the go pro comments I climb with a go pro for my first ascents and use it as a log pretty much and as a personal guide so I can study the climb and know where all the holds are so next time I want to climb it I can do it clean and have fun with it. But I don't use a go pro to boost my ego and show people it and I wouldn't tape my solo because I'm doing it for my self re watch your video sab and watch around the 1min 19second mark and study study study I don't spread hate and you're going to do what you want I'm just like you I'm not religious so I can't say I'll pray for you but I hope you don't fall and have a fun amateur rock climbing career without death!

JulianG wrote: Did you ever fall while leading? better yet broke a hold and fell. Shit happens that has nothing to do with how you feel PS I hope you climb better that you use quickdraws or you photo is to educate us how not to use quickdraws mountainproject.com/v/11176…

To spare us an argument, I'll agree to disagree if you will; to me it has very much to do with feelings and I'm sure there are plenty of arguments for both our opinions... Of course I've taken falls and it's pretty terrifying. As you can see from these two pictures I own my mistakes. mountainproject.com/v/11176… mountainproject.com/v/11176…. The picture you referenced of mine was a toprope setup my friend put up on headstone and was wrong, sure, but we make mistakes and learn and move on. We all assume the risks. Now if you care to critique anymore, I'm open to you sir. Anything to help me improve. Seb, I too like to solo and try to take in the whole atmosphere of the climb, not just get to the top. I heard one of the guys in the film Valley Uprising say it's not about getting to the top, but it's about how you get there, or something to that effect.