climbing pack

tomW wrote:FYI I'm pretty sure there is a new BUG coming out this year. If it comes out this year, I bet it'll be in sometime in the spring.

Yep, petzl.com/en/Sport/New/BUG#….

For those that have the original Bug, the new one:

1. has only one pair of compression straps rather than two (too bad, the old way made it easy and secure to strap on trekking poles, but the daisy chain on the back does provide an alternative);

2. has a pocket accessible from the outside back via a vertical zipper (outside accessibility is good, vertical zipper is unfortunate);

3. has eliminated the bottom rope-carrying straps and replaced them with a top rope-carrying strap (definite improvement).

4. Has emblazoned the Petzl name in giant letters on the back of the pack (now you too can look like a NASCAR race car).

rgold wrote: 4. Has emblazoned the Petzl name in giant letters on the back of the pack (now you too can look like a NASCAR race car).

I'm not a fan of branding at all, otherwise that looks like a cool pack. The pata pack has the same issue, Patagonia scrawled down the back. Gotta move to smaller branding or more discrete symbols.

I ordered a Mochilla yesterday. Like the options. About how long do they normally take to ship, and do you email tracking info? Sometimes my dog likes to open the mail. Helps if I know to look for a package.

Haven't climbed in it yet but I really like my rei flash 18 with shock cord added to the daisies

Brett Burnes wrote:I ordered a Mochilla yesterday. Like the options. About how long do they normally take to ship, and do you email tracking info? Sometimes my dog likes to open the mail. Helps if I know to look for a package.

I shot you a PM, Brett.

I'll email your tracking info when I ship and that should be first thing Monday morning.

I have received my Mochilla a week or so after ordering.

Here's something I worry about with the current inclination to eliminate any type of lid on the modern small fast-and-light packs. It seems to me that the way the fabric bunches and creases creates channels that will funnel rainwater into the pack. The Patagonia Ascenionist packs seem to have addressed this by making a drawstring top that is cut at an angle and folds over itself, and the (larger) Arctyrx Alpha 25 has a dry-top closure inside the drawstring top, but I'm not sure what other manufacturers have done, if anything, to keep a downpour out of the top opening.

rgold wrote:Here's something I worry about with the current inclination to eliminate any type of lid on the modern small fast-and-light packs. It seems to me that the way the fabric bunches and creases creates channels that will funnel rainwater into the pack. The Patagonia Ascenionist packs seem to have addressed this by making a drawstring top that is cut at an angle and folds over itself, and the (larger) Arctyrx Alpha 25 has a dry-top closure inside the drawstring top, but I'm not sure what other manufacturers have done, if anything, to keep a downpour out of the top opening.

if there any chance of rain one should alway have their insulating clothing and sensitive electronics in a dry sack .... OR makes a good UL one with a lifetime warranty

one can also use zip lock bags, or even a compactor/garbage bag that doubles as an emergency bivy bag

ultimately though many of these packs arent made for real rain ... just a bit of snow here and there and the occasional drip ...

even the best backpacking bags arent made for sustained rain .... with the exception of a few ones that are WP and seam taped/sealed

folks who live in the PNW rainy season know that there is no real substitute for dry bags (or compactor/garbage bags)

;)

Outdoor Reseach Dry Peak Bagger is my go to for ice/alpine. Weighs 9oz! Not super confident in its durability (wouldn't drag it up a chimney) but I love it as a leader pack.

Backcountry is out of stock but has some good reviews.

BD hollowpoint is great @ 20L for longer days on the wall, or just having 1 pack per team. Also good for bike commuting, sport climbing trips (if someone else has the rope)

$35 here:
bivouacannarbor.com/product…

bearbreeder wrote:For example i really wanted to like the BD speed 22, but the moment i put the rope and some weight on it ... My shoulder started hurting like hell So go find the best FIT ;)

I know you've got packs bear, but BD just redid the speed (and added the speed zip if you're into zippers?) looks like they might've changed the shoulders on the newer models, removing the yoke design it used to have.

blackdiamondequipment.com/e…

They've also got a pack similar to the mochilla/link:

blackdiamondequipment.com/e…

which is interesting.