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Dan Osman... R.I.P.

K Weber · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 15
Mike Brady wrote: Climbing is selfish and egotistical on all levels and the only way to fully mitigate the danger is to not do it. I can fully appreciate and respect what having a child can do to a person, but maybe Dan, John and Michael were experiencing something that none of us ever will, and maybe that experience was/is more important than being a parent.

That is totally sad and disgusting. Dan Osman, Sean Leary, Michael Reardon, Shane McConkey, John Bachar use to be great in my mind. Now I voice my opinion when I get the chance.

dahigdon · · phoenix, Az · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 195
frank minunni wrote: Hey knucklehead. This forum is for posting ideas, opinions, etc. And the comments are on point as they refer to the position the original poster took. I may disagree with the poster but I do not disrespect him or his position. There have been a number of back and forths so there is interest in the ideas. And by the way, after seeing your monumental commitment and contributions to climbing, it's hard for me to see you as anything more than a ridiculous imposter. Gym and TR...oooh, I can't tell you how impressed I am! I don't know how you could even have an inkling of what DO or others were or were not doing.

Quit bashing a dead man you clown.

Ever climbed without a helmet? Based on your photo's, you've never owned one...

Climbing is dangerous, even when you utilize ropes. A superstar like yourself should be aware of this. If you ever climbed a route after you had a child, your a goddamn hypocrit. Bolts fail, biners fail, partners fail, rocks fall, shit happens...

Who are you to define what an "unnecessary risk" is for another human being?

Go lecture elsewhere you bitter old man :)

Billcoe · · Pacific Northwet · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 936

Frank posts wisdom that is spot on. For myself, I find those guys climbing efforts were amazing. Not just the folks mentioned, plenty more who's names have disappeared to me now. Some of whom I've tied in with. Sad.

However, that said, I have little respect for anyone who walks away from being great dad (after having happily stepped up to be the sperm donor) so they can selfishly indulge their own little whims and ignore other lives that they created and are shitting on.

CTB · · Cave Creek, AZ · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 300
frank minunni wrote: Wah wa-wah wa-wah wah wah wah wah wa-wah wa!!!

It doesn't mater whether its been two days or two decades. If somebody wants to post to celebrate the life of a great climber like Dan Osman.... then who the fuck are you to come rain on the parade? Right from the start too.

You WBC people really suck at life, you know.

frank minunni · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined May 2011 · Points: 95

I guess differing opinions aren't allowed here. You people are pretty sad really. It's not enough to say you disagree with me, which would be fine. Instead I get these hissy fits from the children. Are you holding your breath until you turn blue when you write them. Or do you throw yourself flat on the floor kicking and screaming?

As far the whole being dead thing goes. We all end up dead sooner or later and just because someone is dead, it doesn't mean that what he/she did in life was any better or worse.

dahigdon · · phoenix, Az · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 195
frank minunni wrote:I guess differing opinions aren't allowed here. You people are pretty sad really. It's not enough to say you disagree with me, which would be fine. Instead I get these hissy fits from the children. Are you holding your breath until you turn blue when you write them. Or are you flat on the floor kicking and screaming? As far the whole being dead thing goes. We all end up dead sooner or later and just because someone is dead, it doesn't mean that what he/she did in life was any better or worse.

Oh dear....

John Butler · · Tonopah, NV · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 115

Would you folks talk the way you are if you knew Dano's sweet daughter was in the room? ... because she probably is.

Walter Galli · · Las vegas · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 2,247
Tapas wrote:Would you folks talk the way you are if you knew Dano's sweet daughter was in the room? ... because she probably is.

X 100

trice Rice · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2014 · Points: 0
frank minunni wrote: Being a parent is perhaps our best chance at leaving a better world in our wake. .

Arguably it is the worst thing you can do from a carbon footprint perspective. I say that you keep patting yourself on the back though. As long as your kid isn't a shit head it is probably a +1 for society

frank minunni · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined May 2011 · Points: 95
trice wrote: Arguably it is the worst thing you can do from a carbon footprint perspective. I say that you keep patting yourself on the back though. As long as your kid isn't a shit head it is probably a +1 for society

That's a completely different concept. I have some opinions on that (of course) although I am definitely torn on the issue of stressing the environment. I wouldn't go near it in this forum because it's a complicated issue and the shit storm would be overwhelming. BTW She's a good kid, adult now actually.

dahigdon · · phoenix, Az · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 195

Frank, I simply disagree with you hijacking this thread from the start.. especially to push your personal agenda.

The OP was simply pointing out what an inspirational climber DO was...

This is not the Frank Poonani show. Go watch some Dr. Phil... Your not very fun :(

frank minunni · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined May 2011 · Points: 95
dave higdon wrote:Frank, I simply disagree with you hijacking this thread from the start.. especially to push your personal agenda. The OP was simply pointing out what an inspirational climber DO was... This is not the Frank Poonani show. Go watch some Dr. Phil... Your not very fun :(

Disagree or not, you have no concept of civility.

EeT · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 0

And look what you did they started a whole new thread to bitch about you

Walter Galli · · Las vegas · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 2,247

About we get back on Osman and instead of bull shitting him we talk about what he as done as a climber and wath emotions this grate man have create when he was speed climbing, he for shore was the first speed climber on heart without rope real free climber with a focus mind and strong spirit... Good job Osman

Bill Lawry · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 1,822

It's not my photo. I can't take credit. If someone wants me to take it down, I will.

Edit: Photo cred goes to Kevin Worrall. (Thank you, Alex Bury)

Walter Galli · · Las vegas · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 2,247

Awsome.... Thanks for find such a picture,,

S. Neoh · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 35
Bill Lawry wrote: It's not my photo. I can't take credit.

More details - mountainproject.com/v/11031…

The route was apparently solo'ed onsight in '93 (I remember it making big news), quite a few years before he got more and more into roped jumping.

Bill Lawry · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 1,822

Hopefully he got some good coin from the photo.

onX Sucks · · onX sucks, USA · Joined May 2010 · Points: 319

Free soloing is neither.

Bill Lawry · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 1,822
Matt Wilson wrote:Free soloing ....

Maybe we should call it "radical free soloing." Alpinism ... mountaineering ... commonly involve free soloing, just not at this level. Hell, I even walk up stairs without holding onto the railing.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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