Suspected climbing &^&%$ uses paint to mark trail and jeopardize access!?

Sir chuffs alot wrote:It's sad you deleted my post, who ever the whiny offender and accomplice is, who ever you are. I did not swear, I did not offend, and I tried to make light. Guess some people have no sense of humor. Way to leave all the name calling asshole posts up though, that was considerate.

there are only a few mods besides the owners who have the power to delete posts and they dont even post in the forums much. its kinda like Barney Fife and his bullets, just let him have one once in a while, make them feel 'above it all'. you should see all the butthurt complaints they get daily, one guy from Vegas leads them all.

BTW- still have an ad for a video game in the upper right corner where the chick is taking her pants off and rubbing her virtual tits and I have never played video games!

Looks like shit, no respect.

Okay moderator/owner/facilitator/NSA agent, now that Dennis Horning admitted to using paint to mark boulders for "trail markers" to his wonderful climbing area, do you want to change the Title of this thread back to it's original?

Seems kinda silly now, doesn't it?

This started as a question/discussion/input thread stemming from very questionable climber ethics. . . and there is no suspect.

the Ascender wrote:"Suspected climbing &^&%$ uses paint to mark trail and jeopardize access!?" Okay moderator/owner/facilitator/NSA agent, now that Dennis Horning admitted to using paint to mark boulders for "trail markers" to his wonderful climbing area, do you want to change the Title of this thread back to it's original? Seems kinda silly now, doesn't it? This started as a question/discussion/input thread stemming from very questionable climber ethics. . . and there is no suspect.

so if it wasnt you who changed the title of this thread I'd have to say the mod who changed it needs to toughen up a little bit or go back to knitting burp cloths.

FYI- I'm OK with it now after the explanation

Tonto wrote: I suggest climbing hard instead of ranting hard, it might just do the trick. Hey ass-ender, what is more important, telling the mods you are angry or protecting access?

Great suggestion, Taint-o. Way to think it through.

IT'S NOT JUST ONE ROCK

I think this is actually a class A misdemeanor in New York. That's a criminal act if you don't know.

On the living things.

"That rock looks better with spray paint." - nobody

Every national park, state park, or other recreation area I've ever been to has spray painted markers on rocks or trees, placed there by the forest service or park rangers. I don't see the issue.

For example, hiking Cadillac Mountain in Acadia National Park. The trails are marked with various colored spray paint lines on the rock. Red, white, green blue, black, etc.

Sometimes there are nylon markers tied around trees.
Sometimes there are placards.
Sometimes there are wood signs.
Sometimes there are cairns.
Sometimes it's spray paint.

The giant numbers are a bit obscene, yes. But this is the sort of thing I'm used to seeing:

Here is the difference

NRS 206.005  “Graffiti” defined.
1.  “Graffiti” means any unauthorized inscription, word, figure or design that is marked, etched, scratched, drawn, painted on or affixed to the public or private property, real or personal, of another, including, without limitation, an estray or one or more head of livestock, which defaces the property.

Dennis Horning wrote: “The plant community on the land between the logging road used for walking access (only/gated) and the climbing cliff on ground level consists partly of some delicate mosses. In an effort to preserve this moss we wanted cliff users to only use the singular trail to the cliff base.

So when driving down the road, one really needs to see this because it will help you from driving on the delicate mosses along the road.

Jesse Newton is smart enough to figure out the truth here

climbing friend,

they shall receive 7 flicks to the wang, and 5 minutes of nonstop crushing squeezing headlock, and 3 months of days at the crag only allowable to be watching others climb.

Sad thing is I remember when this crag was not like this. Even sadder that a climber did this.
Then there is all the trash left, it just doesn't end.

That does look like shit. I'd probably try to remove it with a wirebrush if the land managers are supportive. If a hand brush does not remove it, a grinder with a rotary wire brush may get it off. You wont be able to use it on the tree obviously. You could also try adding an environmentally friendly solvent of sorts.

20 kN wrote: I'd probably try to remove it with a wirebrush.....

Great! thanks for the offer, come on over and start scrubbing!

20 kN wrote:You could also try adding an environmentally friendly solvent of sorts.

When you say "you" do you mean me? or the OP, or the guy who did it? Because if you think I'm going to clean up this guy's mess, well I guess you were raised different then me?

https://www.dumondchemicals.com/home-peel-away-1.html

Peel Away 1. This stuff works. Took 8 layers of up to 140 year old paint off mouldings. It is relatively environmentally benign. It is a strong base. The downside is you have to wait. Apply, cover with plastic and come back in 8 hours. It will take all the paint off and does not require scrubbing. Can be neutralized with an acid like vinegar or citric acid used for making candy sour.

I once caught a group of teens spray painting at Cooper's Rock asked them to follow me and called the ranger to come speak with them. He made them return to clean the boulders. I ask that the climbing community in WY try to do the same. The person who did this needs to own it or it will continue.