upside down/reverse double bowline tie in...

Healyje wrote:What I do...

i like that!

Mark Pilate wrote: I use the following finish to my bowline....never comes untied and also keeps figure8-o-philes from second-guessing my knot

funny, though you better hope know one tries that... they might not see through the sarcasm.. :/

mattm wrote:With no pictures I can't tell for certain (so double check and be safe) BUT it just sounds like you're tying it FACING the other way. I do the exact same thing you're describing and have for 15 years. I find tying it this way is slightly easier (rope tends to "sit" where I need it as it's being tied) The Bowline is perfectly safe (with proper backup knot). I DON'T like the "Yosemite Finish" and simply tie my finishing knot inside the loop. It's cleaner and has less issues IMO. Here's my sequence:

Yes this is exactly how I tie it with the exception that I finish back through and tie the back-up half fishermans above the knot.

Looking back I feel a bit silly for even having to ask, but I couldn't find any resources online of people doing it this way. Better to be sure than sorry I guess.

RobC2 wrote:No one should EVER tie in while mountaineering/climbing using a bowline the only safe knot for tying in is a retraced figure eight. Bowline: Instrument of death.

What a horrible article... wrong on so many fronts.

RobC2 wrote:No one should EVER tie in while mountaineering/climbing using a bowline the only safe knot for tying in is a retraced figure eight. Bowline: Instrument of death.

From the article: "Long himself attributes the accident to human error. Speaking to Rock and Ice, he admitted he forgot to finish tying his knot."

Yes, it's OBVIOUSLY the knot's fault that it wasn't tied.