Miura 45 Pack

Does anyone have any info or reviews on the new "revised" Miura? I'm in the market and looking to see if it holds up to the standards of the 50.

The reason I bought a Muira 50 was the bulletproof construction, great waist belt, roll top, rope attachments, and outside pockets.

Arcteryx should have kept making the Muira 50 and called the new pack something else.

video preview on it here ukclimbing.com/gear/news.ph…

I was so glad to snag a 50 on sale once I saw the replacement. Just looks gimmicky and less useful in real life. Not to mention, I like that a full rack and rope fits inside the 50 and I can clip shoes outside. 45 might be a tad small for a double trad rack.
Maybe in use its awesome - we need someone to actually buy one and let you guys know. I'm happy with the old one and glad to know they last forever.

The new rope bag is slick, but holy fuck - $70 - for a fucking rope bag. Seriously. That's just insane.

In redesigning the Miura, Arcteryx has dropped most of the features that I valued most and have abandoned the awesome load-carrying capacity of the predecessor. It's a huge disappointment to me.

Seems like they saw the Mammut Neon and said "hey, we can do that shit too!"

I ordered one a couple weeks ago sight unseen and my intent was to write a full fledged review. After testing it out a bit at home and looking it over I decided my money would be better spent on something else. Since I was returning it I never gave it a legitimate field test. I didn't take pictures or write anything up but I'll summarize my opinions below.

For the record, I experimented with these two packing lists:

60m (10.1mm) Rope in Metolius Rope Bag
Climbing Shoes
Harness w/ATC
12 sport Draws
Gri-Gri
2 1 Qt Nalgenes
1 small Gatorade
Snacks

OR

Single Rack micro to #3
Doubles .5-2
12 slings w/biners (trad draws)
Climbing Shoes
Harness w/ATC
12 sport Draws
Gri-Gri
2 1 Qt Nalgenes
1 small Gatorade
Snacks

-Capacity
The Miura 45 didn't hold nearly as much as I expected. The 45L figure includes three small pockets which detract from how much climbing gear it can contain. The pockets are big enough to hold snacks or a guidebook but not much else because of the dimensions. Two of the pockets are folder shaped. This just isn't that useful when it only expands a couple inches and still invades the interior space. I bought this pack expecting it to hold more than my Metolius Crag Station (41L) but in practice it is not even close. The dimensions and design of the Miura 45 made it very difficult to get the same amount of stuff in it that I normally put in the Crag Station. On a whim, I put the loaded Miura inside the Crag Station and could still nearly close it.

-Carry
The Miura actually carried very well once it was loaded. This was a pleasant surprise after seeing how sparse the waist and shoulder straps are. The waist strap is webbing without padding, which I am accustomed to but frankly seems pretty pointless for a crag pack. I did not test the Miura with a partial load, I imagine the lack of compression straps would allow everything just to sink to the bottom for whatever that's worth.

-Access
I fully expected this to be a highlight of the pack but I was really disappointed. Once the pack is on the ground, to unzip the bag completely you have to lift the top (where your head would be if carrying) up enough for you to slide the zipper past the ground. If the zipper crossed the top of the pack just an inch or two higher it would make opening and closing much easier. Also, if the pack is really loaded up, the drawbridge style is difficult to close. I found that the easiest way get everything in was to half close the bag and use it like a top loader.

Overall, the pack was made well and seemed to be of high quality but the inconveniences were too much to justify the high price tag. Especially since the main feature (drawbridge opening) turned out to be a bust for me.

I own one. Other than the full zip I dont like it. Good for cragging with short approaches. All my zipper tugs have broke. Its odd I love Arcteryx but this isn't their bwst product.

I have the old Miura 50 and it is a great crag bag, including crags with a genuine hike to get in. This seems to be a case when they "fixed" something that wasn't broke.