South Platte: Call for Photos for the New Guidebook

I beg of you to keep out Lost Creek Wilderness aside from Wigwam etc.... Let it be wild and give people the experience of what the Platte was. Give younger climbers the experience of exploration and being creative.

Allen Hill wrote:I beg of you to keep out Lost Creek Wilderness aside from Wigwam etc.... Let it be wild and give people the experience of what the Platte was. Give younger climbers the experience of exploration and being creative.

+1 for this

John McNamee wrote:Jason, Great to hear you are putting a guide book for the SP. What is the approx publishing date? Please include Squat and Sphinx areas. Hopefully they will open again one day. Just like Cat slab, I didn't think that would ever open again and look what happened. Better to include them so the information and history isn't lost. Cheers john Edit: just answered my own question, Spring 2011. fixedpin.com/The_South_Plat…

John, we hoped to have had the guidebook out sooner but we just weren't able to finish the Cathedral section before the closures set in (which is this coming Monday). So we'll wrap up the rest of it and lay everything out (hence the call for photos) and finish the Spires when the lift in August. We'll then have to finish layout and get them printed, which takes a couple months. I'd rather give a worst-case scenario deadline rather than an overly optimistic deadline, then people are all mad and ansy about it not being out.

Allen - thanks for the suggestion.

Allen Hill wrote:I beg of you to keep out Lost Creek Wilderness aside from Wigwam etc.... Let it be wild and give people the experience of what the Platte was. Give younger climbers the experience of exploration and being creative.

EDIT: allen, not trying to be a dick, but some devils advocacy:

how would a guidebook change that? can us whippersnappers just choose not to use one if we feel the itch to explore? There is plenty of the platte i personally have explored that is apparently documented in existing guidebooks, but we didnt know what we were climbing. virtual FAs..

or what about this, suppose some chap from a later generation stumbles upon an obscure "unclimbed" route and does what he/she thinks is an FA, heaven forbid puts some fixed hardware on it appropriately as they see fit, only to find out later that it had been done before. now the line is retro'd out of ignorance. dont you think that could all be avoided if the documentation was available?

flame on.

WiledHorse wrote: EDIT: allen, not trying to be a dick, but some devils advocacy: how would a guidebook change that? can us whippersnappers just choose not to use one if we feel the itch to explore? There is plenty of the platte i personally have explored that is apparently documented in existing guidebooks, but we didnt know what we were climbing. virtual FAs.. or what about this, suppose some chap from a later generation stumbles upon an obscure "unclimbed" route and does what he/she thinks is an FA, heaven forbid puts some fixed hardware on it appropriately as they see fit, only to find out later that it had been done before. now the line is retro'd out of ignorance. dont you think that could all be avoided if the documentation was available? flame on.

I have to agree with you on this. It's not like there will be a lot of people trekking into the wilderness to get on the routes just because it is in a guide book. The Lost Creek Wilderness will still feel wild even if the routes are in a book.

Jason, I should have some time this week end to forward a few images your way to review and perhaps print. Sorry for not moving faster on getting them to you. Cheers, olaf

Christopher Jones wrote: I have to agree with you on this. It's not like there will be a lot of people trekking into the wilderness to get on the routes just because it is in a guide book. The Lost Creek Wilderness will still feel wild even if the routes are in a book.

i dont think the amount of traffic 'infrequenting' these obscure areas will change much if they are documented in Jason's guidebook.

BTW big props Jason and Ben for taking the bull by its horns and conquering such a huge undertaking. the stuff i have seen is incredible. youre crushin it like you do with climbing.

Very last call/plea for photos. There's a few chapters I haven't laid out yet and would love submissions. Thanks!

Jason Haas

What areas are you needing?

email me Jason when you have a chance.

This is getting exciting!

Greg, I'm particularly interested in Noddle Heads, Top of the World, and The Castle although quite frankly, if you have a good shot, I'd like to see it. If it's better than one I took, I'd love to replace it with your photo. Especially since there tends to be a disproportionate amount of the same people in action photos (the same friends I could sucker into doing specific routes for me over and over while I fiddled with fixed lines etc.).

Allen, I'll email you today

Thanks for doing this- so needed. Long time since Peters guide.

Please keep Lost Creek in there, I think Sphinx/Squat/BSnort should be as well.

I have some great pics of Wigwam Dome on Ramblin Rose and some misc. on the Castle. Ill have to go digging, some may not even be digital yet.... Ill email you them i n the next day or so...

I have no good photos, but just wanted to say thanks and I can't wait for your guidebook to come out. You do a brilliant job!

Thanks for all the positive responses, I got way more photos this time around then when I first posted this thread! You guys rock