anyone near loveland lose some cams?

http://shop.ebay.com/mlhitch70/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340

looks like you've got about 22 hrs to recover it..

don't know if this stuff is stolen or not, but the guy is refering to a tech friend as "Black Diamond rock climbing cam hold 3" wtf and "I can't seem to find the number on this thing. I bought it new and paid a ton for it, I do know it was a black diamond brand."

I'm impressed...

yep, I'd say this gear is HOT!

Hot for sure... although that is a nice looking cam scrapper.

cgi.ebay.com/rock-climbing-…

In general I think these posts bashing someone selling cheap gear on ebay are silly...

But he is calling a pinkie a "Tricam rock climbing nut hold cam."

Also, he is selling a bunch of used motorcycle parts and stereos...

In a colo spgs parking lot outside of a media play/best buy I once had a few guys pull up to me in van and show me a really nice brand new stereo in the back. They wanted 1000$ cash for it. I was 15.

"I can't really read anything on these anymore and forget the name brand, one says RP. They are used so be aware of that."

He gave us a nice description of himself though...

"I am 6 foot 2 and 200lbs"

He has great seller ratings though ;)

mlhitch70 says his wife (5'2") and he has used the aid gearsling but calls it a: "North Face rock climbing cam pack vest holder" and the cleaning tool is a "rock climbing nut hold cam scrapper"

WOW if the gear's not hot, he really doen't need to be climbing.

I asked via eBay:

Just a few questions:

1. Is the cam a Black Diamond C3 or C4?
2. Did you ever aid on this piece?
3. What knot did you use on the sling?

Thanks!!

He replied promptly:

all of my gear I bought new with a freind that tried to get me into the sport. I used a few things once and then quit. I let me friend use pretty much all of the gear for a couple years. I got it back and am now selling it. I really know nothing about the sport, sorry I wish I could help.

Just curious. I never use EBAY so I don't know the details.

Is there a feature for reporting what you believe may be stolen goods? To perhaps put the auction on hold. I don't know how they would follow up on the situation anyway, but I believe those items are stolen and I wonder if there is anything that can be done.

We can all talk about it, what can we actual do?
Jon

Buy some of the gear, get the dudes return address and then follow him around with a video camera until you see him steal something else. Sucks but there isn't a whole lot you can do until you get some hard evidence.

cheifitj wrote:We can all talk about it, what can we actual do?

Mostly just talk about it and hope someone notices their gear on eBay. Typically if the description is a bit off and it is obvious the seller is not a climber, I don't assume the worst, but this is a fairly severe case. This guy doesn't have a clue what he has. The "Black Diamond C3 or C4" I was asking him about is really an old Metolius TCU with smooth cam lobes and a tied-on sling. The carabiner probably is a BD thus his description.

Economy down = crime up

I'm gonna keep a close eye on my nut hold cam scrapper.

cheifitj wrote:Just curious. I never use EBAY so I don't know the details. Is there a feature for reporting what you believe may be stolen goods? To perhaps put the auction on hold. I don't know how they would follow up on the situation anyway, but I believe those items are stolen and I wonder if there is anything that can be done. We can all talk about it, what can we actual do? Jon

There is a report feature on ebay where you can report an item as possibly stolen.

In addition to the above, he describes a bunch of Wild Country friends as "definitely Black Diamond". I reported all his things as "suspected stolen" to eBay. These people piss me off.

So what is a "North Face rock climbing cam pack vest holder" ? Can't tell from the thumbnail, and no bigger pic loads for me.

Based on sales history - A major 'stuff' collector cleaning out would be my guess. Can't really believe someone would be dumb enough to use the same account for that much stolen stuff(unless it's a pawn shop). But I'm surprised that way a lot!

Mark Cushman wrote: He replied promptly: all of my gear I bought new with a freind that tried to get me into the sport. I used a few things once and then quit. I let me friend use pretty much all of the gear for a couple years. I got it back and am now selling it. I really know nothing about the sport, sorry I wish I could help.

I guess I got you guys stirred up a bit. It just didn't look right, and while his explanation is almost plausible, the gear doesn't really even fit his excuse. The tech friend and tcu's seem to be at least a decade old, maybe a couple.

Wayne wrote:So what is a "North Face rock climbing cam pack vest holder" ? Can't tell from the thumbnail, and no bigger pic loads for me.

I was curious about that description as well. The bigger pics were loading yesterday, didn't get to see that one though.

Wayne wrote:So what is a "North Face rock climbing cam pack vest holder"?

It's a gear sling for double and triple pieces for aid climbing. Aid is not an aspect of the sport that beginners dabble in.

If he bought those pieces new and has a friend who climbs, I would think that he would have a better knowledge of the names.

I also reported the gear on ebay as stolen.

I just got a reply that basically told me to report it to the police so it goes back to having hard evidence. I guess there is pretty much nothing we can do unless somebody can find the original owner.

ebay reply:

Dear Tyson,

Thank you for writing eBay in regard to stolen property.

If you see an item on eBay that you think may be stolen, please contact
law enforcement immediately. Tell the police officer handling the case
that we will be pleased to cooperate in the investigation.

Please forward this message to the officer and ask him or her to contact
us as follows:

1. Go to:
pages.ebay.com/help/contact…

2. Select "Listing Violations," and then click the "Continue" button.
3. Select "Stolen property," select "You are a law enforcement
official," and then click the "Continue" button.
4. Click the "Email us" link.

Thanks again for your report.

Sincerely,
Hogan

eBay Customer Support