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Phoenix
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Nov 20, 2008
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louisville, colorado
· Joined Jul 2008
· Points: 310
Let me first be clear, I love climbing and will continue to climb so long as my body permits me. As well, I love Indian Creek. The Creek is a truly magical place. It is one of the most breath-taking landscapes on the planet, as are the highlands of the Rocky Mountains. With that said, and I mean no offense, I don't think that it is a wise choice to have gone the Creek trip over finding a job. The whole time may cost $50 out of pocket, but remember the other expense and consequence of not working for a week. That time not working is much needed money flying out of your pocket, $100? $300? Many of us have been through hard times, and dirtbagged around, but that is one thing when you don't have responsibilities. With car payments and bills and renting by yourself in a high cost housing market, time off is an pricey indulgence. THERE IS ALWAYS WORK!!!! Seasonal or not, if you're hungry go work for Labor Ready. They pay daily, and if you find something that suits your fancy, you can always apply to said company. Now why all this talk about seasonal jobs, washing dishes and running a register? Go work for a construction company sweeping floors, watch, learn, and apply = a career, a trade, a job you can get anywhere, and the pay is better than the latter. I have to agree with Tony here, that being a valuable asset to your employers will always guarantee you work. So Seth, in conclusion, now that you have had your first desert adventure (hope it was an absolute blast, how goes the lack of knuckle skin?) Buckle down, and keep your chin up. The universe will provide for its children my brother.
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Mike Lane
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Nov 20, 2008
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AnCapistan
· Joined Jan 2006
· Points: 880
There is a boatload of construction going on up there. And just like anything else its hard to get your foot in the door with no experience. You would need to earnestly sell your eagerness to whomever, just to get a job as a laborer. And you would actually have to compete for that work with "underdocumented job-seekers" who just so happen to speak spanish. This is turn could lead to a trade. But Beware: About half, if not more, of the journeyman-level folks I know who are intelligent all started out as something else and fell back to construction to pay the bills. Its like quicksand. First, you actually get drawn to the hardness of it all, (the elements, hazards, bosses that yell and threaten you) then you start to learn how to actually make something. That part is addictive. Just something to be aware of. If you lose your apartment, there are some geothermal-heated caves by Glenwood; just sleep with a knife under your pillow.
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Jon B
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Nov 21, 2008
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2007
· Points: 105
So true. I used to love the laboring. I always thought it was unfare that I, in essence, was getting paid to workout. Still love to dig. Kind of wierd. So many options to work different muscle groups.
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mark felber
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Nov 21, 2008
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Wheat Ridge, CO
· Joined Jul 2005
· Points: 41
In case you haven't seen their ads, SOS Staffing (970-668-8991) is a temporary employment agency in Frisco, 409 Main St. There were notices up at the Breckenridge Recreation Center for jobs available, mostly low paying seasonal jobs but one of them might lead into something with the town of Breck. Between the lousy economy and a lack of snow, I'm expecting a tough winter in Summit County. Have fun in Indian Creek but start looking for work immediately after you get back.
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Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
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Nov 21, 2008
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Vegas
· Joined May 2005
· Points: 4,115
Ian F. wrote:So true. I used to love the laboring. I always thought it was unfare that I, in essence, was getting paid to workout. Still love to dig. Kind of wierd. So many options to work different muscle groups. That's so, so true. For extra money I was a bottle digger after my "day job" and I miss digging so much that whenever we get the two wheel drive truck stuck in the desert, I get so excited to jump out, and start digging. Hell, just the other day I was digging for Turquoise. Ian is right, labor stuff stays in your blood for life. : ) Anyway, Seth, if you end up doing temporary factory jobs to survive, just think of it as entertainment. I'll never forget any of those character building factory jobs I had in my teen years. If I had all day, I could tell you some stories. Also, when times are tough, and your wage is low, don't just think about working one job; have two or three money making activities if you can swing it. Get creative. Last advice, "Get a job", then play. Don't waste valuable job hunting time. It's no picnic to be broke. Good luck!
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Mike Lane
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Nov 21, 2008
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AnCapistan
· Joined Jan 2006
· Points: 880
The Rocky ran an article about how the unemployment office has hold times of 2 hours. I would recommend that you avoid the Animal House advise ROAD TRIP!. And concentrate on getting work first. Yo Gigi, I routinely have digging projects; I'd be more than happy to provide you with all the free digging you'd ever want. My crew does not share your enthusiasm, but I like the workouts.
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Kevin Coopman
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Nov 21, 2008
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2004
· Points: 110
Dude, This is such an easy one. Just move to Aspen and become a trophy boy for some 50+ women. You'll have income and must go climbing and stuff to keep the trophy status. Kevin
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Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
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Nov 21, 2008
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Vegas
· Joined May 2005
· Points: 4,115
Mike Lane wrote:Yo Gigi, I routinely have digging projects; I'd be more than happy to provide you with all the free digging you'd ever want. My crew does not share your enthusiasm, but I like the workouts. If you punch into some old glass, then I'll dig on the Lane crew. No splitting on the rare whiskeys, sodas, and medicines; and for the hook up, you get some free digging, and you can even keep a cracked sulphide marble or two, and the broken doll heads(The whole ones are mine!)
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Tim Stich
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Nov 21, 2008
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Colorado Springs, Colorado
· Joined Jan 2001
· Points: 1,516
Shawn Mitchell wrote: Shut up, Mark. It's not true, Seth...there are *no* MP sacrifice rituals that require a victim with passing resemblance to Frodo Baggins! Ha ha ha ha! Too funny.
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Richard C Sims
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Nov 21, 2008
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Centennial
· Joined May 2007
· Points: 10
Gigette I have just the project for you. A cheap client that will use anyone for free. Late 1800 to early 1900s home site. We may need to dig down 16'. The test holes came up with coal and other materials. In the walls of a 1914 crafsman style built home I found a six pack of San Diego beer , a whiskey bottle and a news paper. I gave it to the owner. Seth I made a call to Breck and am waiting to hear back .
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England
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Nov 21, 2008
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Colorado Springs
· Joined Aug 2008
· Points: 270
Time to climb now!!! That's what you came here for.
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Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
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Nov 22, 2008
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Vegas
· Joined May 2005
· Points: 4,115
Richard S wrote:Gigette I have just the project for you. A cheap client that will use anyone for free. Late 1800 to early 1900s home site. We may need to dig down 16'. The test holes came up with coal and other materials. 1800s to the turn of the century is music to my ears. It sounds like you dug into a trash pit; there should be several in the mid yard to the back of the property line of the old home that stands or once stood; trash pits of homes usually aren't more than 4-6 feet deep but produce an abundance of bottles. Privies (outhouses) are much deeper can produce layers, upon layers of bottles. The deepest privy we dug was about 14 feet deep. This was in LA. Vegas sucks for bottle digging; just not old enough, and the ground is full of caliche. If I lived closer to you, (damnit) I'd be able to probe, and find the perimeter of the pits, and the privies, so you guys wouldn't damage all the bottles with careless digging. It's a good idea to screen the dirt of the privies, and pits; that's how you find the wonderful German doll heads, and fun things like old clay, and sulphide marbles (if the early occupants had children); as a bottle digger, you always hope they did. Richard, it's a touchy thing when you get so-called "permission" to dig on someones property. They might say, "Oh sure, you can dig for bottles" , but as soon as they see potential dollar signs, usually after you had spent the whole day doing the dirty work, they can kick you to the curb empty handed, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. Believe me, it's happened. The best digging of my life was behind boarded up homes, in run down neighborhoods. The cops were rarely called in those areas, and the owners MIA. Good times of days gone by. Let me know what you find. : ) AKA BUMP for Seth. G
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seth0687
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Nov 26, 2008
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Fort Collins
· Joined Nov 2007
· Points: 375
well I survived kinda....left a good portion of my skin and blood in the creek but my only regret is not staying longer. I am back in the fort for the moment, and have already applied at a few local places just seeing whats out there. Gonna go buy a newspaper, enjoy thanksgiving and make way either friday or saturday. I'll start a new thread when I get some pictures. Cheers, Seth
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Rick Blair
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Nov 26, 2008
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Denver
· Joined Oct 2007
· Points: 266
That is one burly climbing trip for your first time since you moved west! What did you climb, if you have never been to Moab before, what did you think??
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seth0687
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Nov 26, 2008
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Fort Collins
· Joined Nov 2007
· Points: 375
aside from climbing in gyms and some bouldering when I was younger this was my first climbing outside. Learned pretty much everything from the ground up from Sal and his awesome group of friends. I was on TR for everything and flailed my way to the top of most all the routes haha, but none the less it was amazing I loved it there, everytime I looked around I almost had to snap myself out of a transe. Day 1: Donally Canyon -I did two routes and am unsure of name or rating Day 2: Pistol Whipped -got up 5 routes and again some unnamed stuff but I do remember getting up Coin Crack Simulator Day 3: Cat wall -more unnamed stuff and not sure if I got up 4 or 5 routes haha Day 4: Scarface -flailed my way up scarface and then got shut down on an unnamed 5.10 or 5.10- I believe, again not totally sure Day 5: Super Crack -highlight of my trip for sure made it up Incredible Hand Crack clean on TR and then flailed and hangdogged my way up 3am crack. I will try and get some pictures and stuff together and post a thread later on, but that is a rough highlight of everything I got a chance to be a part of. All in all it was one of the best times of my life and I can't thank Sal, Yager, Frankie, and Mike enough for all their help and guidence throughout the trip.
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Mike Pharris
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Nov 26, 2008
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Longmont, CO
· Joined May 2007
· Points: 125
seth0687 wrote:aside from climbing in gyms and some bouldering when I was younger this was my first climbing outside. DAMN! Your ruined from here on out you know..... :) What a kickass way to intro to the sport!
You don't have any accounting skills at all do you?
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seth0687
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Nov 26, 2008
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Fort Collins
· Joined Nov 2007
· Points: 375
MikeP wrote: DAMN! Your ruined from here on out you know..... :) What a kickass way to intro to the sport! You don't have any accounting skills at all do you? haha oh ya spoiled for sure lol. I don't have any direct accounting skills, but I'm a fast learner and have a good financial background with retail banking, commercial banking, and market finance as well. Seth
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Marc H
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Nov 26, 2008
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Longmont, CO
· Joined May 2007
· Points: 265
Good work, Seth. I'm glad you enjoyed "the best crag in Colorado." :) --Marc
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Daniel Yager
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Nov 26, 2008
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Nov 2007
· Points: 0
it was a pretty damn good time indeed. cant wait to go back. seth- it was good to have the company on the way back. give me a shout sometime, well do some climbing. have a good thanksgiving
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Mike Pharris
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Nov 27, 2008
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Longmont, CO
· Joined May 2007
· Points: 125
Hey Seth, sent you a message.
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