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Kai Larson
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Aug 8, 2008
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Sandy, UT
· Joined Jan 2006
· Points: 441
J. Thompson wrote: Bike locks have been repeatedly used by protesters to lock themselves to each other and fixed objects. A favorite it the 'U' lock around the neck and a post. "U" locks have also been used to enchain protesters, generally by the neck. Rather than banning bike locks, perhaps the police should just be given super glue or JB Weld, so they can squirt a bit of it into the locking mechanism. Just leave the protestors locked to the post.
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Shawn Mitchell
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Aug 8, 2008
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Broomfield
· Joined Mar 2008
· Points: 250
Kai Larson wrote: Rather than banning bike locks, perhaps the police should just be given super glue or JB Weld, so they can squirt a bit of it into the locking mechanism. Just leave the protestors locked to the post. Without due-due process and fiery public orations by David Lane and Walter Gerash? You GOP fascist!
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Jeff Fiedler
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Aug 8, 2008
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Oct 2006
· Points: 0
J. Thompson, you wrote: "The reason these things have been banned is that they have been used in the past by some of the same protest groups and similar protest groups. The Urine and feces bombs, generally, are used to provoke the police into taking action. The idea being that they are playing on emotion and hoping to invoke an inappropriate response." You make it sound like this is common. But can you find a single link of this actually happening anywhere? Specifically, which protest groups do you think have used this "generally" as a tactic. (I don't have much sympathy for these protesters, and no connection with them, but I'm curious to see if you can back up your assertion.)
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Marc H
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Aug 9, 2008
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Longmont, CO
· Joined May 2007
· Points: 265
J. Thompson wrote: Marc, Did you research that? Or did you just read what the protesters said in a statement to the press? The reason these things have been banned is that they have been used in the past by some of the same protest groups and similiar protest groups. The Urine and feces bombs, generally, are used to provoke the police into taking action. The idea being that they are playing on emotion and hoping to envoke an inappropriate response. Think about it, you are standing there doing your job and someone starts throwing human shit on you, what do you suppose your response is going to be? Anger? So they occasionally get a violent response, video tape it, and sue the city. Should a cop be held responsible for inappropriate and especially violent behavior? ABSOLUTELY! Should the city outlaw things, that have no normal use, in an effort to protect them and the police from things like this? Yes. I know the whole urine and Feces bomb thing sounds pretty damn funny. It is pretty damn funny! But what you don't realise is that in the past protesters have literally shit into bags, carried them to demostrations, and then thrown them at the police and other protesters. That is the reason the Ordinance was inacted. I'm sure both Rosa Parks and Ghandi would approve. No, I did not research it. I believe that protesters have indeed used noxious substances during their demonstrations before; I don't believe that it's a common tactic...at all. Banning the carrying of human waste, IMO, is silly because any law enforcement personnel is going to at least detain anyone found carry urine or feces. Like I said before, I know that it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things; I found the article interesting and thought others might as well, especially since some climbing gear was listed as some of the articles banned. I'm just throwing different perspectives out there; I don't necessarily sympathize with the protesters, mainly because I don't even know what they're protesting. That is all... :) --Marc
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Ryan Tuleja
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Aug 11, 2008
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Oct 2005
· Points: 10
Not to pick any fights here, but does anyone else think it's odd that the Demonstrators are being kept so far away from the people who will attend the convention? Barricades, air conditioning units and generators all stand in the way of the protestors from being seen or heard. The part I think is funny, is that most of the Dems in power started out as protestors, and now they can't be bothered by the sights and sounds of a protest line?
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